Birth of a Racer, a Discovery Channel documentary about the MotoCzysz C1 project and the MotoCzysz motorcycle company has just begun airing around the world. All of the dates announced so far cover countries everywhere except the U.S., which is “to be announced.” Last I checked, Oregon was in the U.S., MotoCzysz is a U.S. motorcycle company so what is this TBD nonsense on the U.S. Discovery Channel? Strange.
There’s a teaser video on the site of Strom Magallon Entertainment which is the video production company for the show. (Site is very slow)
Show dates and links below:
Dates for the show are shown below:
Discovery Benelux – 11/10/2007
Discovery Asia – 11/15/2007
Discovery Japan – 11/25/2007
Discovery Latin America – 11/25/2007
Discovery India & Taiwan – 11/26/2007
Discovery Poland – 12/12/2007
Discovery France – 12/17/2007
Discovery Russia – 12/20/2007
Discovery Central Europe – 12/20/2007
Discovery Romania – 12/21/2007
Discovery Italy – 12/28/2007
Discovery Spain & Portugal – 12/30/2007
Discovery Australia & New Zealand – 12/30/2007
Discovery Denmark & Poland – 12/31/2007
Discovery United States – TBD
Link: MotoCzysz Blog
Link: Video Teaser at Strom Magallon Entertainment
Phoebe says
“Last I checked, Oregon was in the U.S., MotoCzysz is a U.S. motorcycle company so what is this TBD nonsense on the U.S. Discovery Channel? Strange.”
The cynic in me wants to say because it’s not a chopper…
hoyt says
whether or not it raced has nothing to do with the other dates that are already scheduled while the US has not been scheduled. The point in question is why is there a TBD for the US? The documentary has been made and is scheduled to air
in 15 other locations.
Lemme guess, an OCC marathon over the Thanksgiving weekend – oh wait, that is TLC now.
This documentary airing over a Thanksgiving weekend would be perfect timing, especially for those riders in colder climates.
hoyt says
The clip via the link above seems to be functioning at a good pace.
A double-bill with a John Britten documentary would be fitting.
There is a ton of material waiting to be documented and sold as a dvd.
The Biker Build Offs were run into the ground. Cool idea that lost focus and became too greedy – such is life in a pop culture world. These documentaries have an opportunity to educate, entertain, & open up the moto subject to not only posers but enthusiasts.
Tom says
All Czyszlle no steak.
Wake me up when one has actually run a race or two.
Until then I don’t see much difference between them and Orange County Choppers.
Tom says
“These documentaries have an opportunity to educate, entertain, & open up the moto subject to not only posers but enthusiasts.”
I like the sound of that. How about a documentary about Ducati or Aprilia? How about KTM or Triumph or MV Augusta or BMW? If you want to keep it “American” how about the new Buell 1125R? As an enthusiast, those are the kind of bikes I’d like to learn more about.
I’m sorry if I sound bitter, but after five years of talk and not so much as an 800 cc engine that would actually be eligible for MOTO GP, I see MotoCzysz as the poser of all posers.
GAMBLER says
I hope & pray they make a go of it!
we are all pulling for you M.C.
OMMAG says
Wasn’t there a doc done on the KR racing bike and his team …??
hoyt says
Tom – I am waiting as well as their sponsors and the MotoC team for the first race.
Czysz’s originally stated goal of a GP race within 2 years was premature. I’ll bet he knew it was ambitious, but not nearly as ambitious as he knows now.
To hype or not to hype until-its-time is the question… It would have been mind-blowing in this age of astronomical costs to see this bike come out of nowhere and line-up on a grid. But, how would a small company drum up that kind of cash and engineering talent completely in secrecy? You have to promote yourself to some extent; albeit stating a time to reach the grid sets yourself up for impatient criticism on many levels. Nonetheless, engineers from all over the world took notice.
I don’t agree with the way some of the hoopla was generated, but that was not all of Moto Czsyz’s fault nor was the hoopla in their complete control. Have I missed the text or audio where Czysz declares victory (or did he just say he would be a contender)? So what? Call him competitive.
CycleWorld is part to blame (IMO) for critics losing patience. They came out with the cover story full bore. Motorcyclist was the first rag that offered a critical review by James Parker. Then, CW’s Kevin Cameron’s article seemed to calm down and highlight the handling as their potential more than the engine.
I can understand CW’s full bore excitement (although they are a major publication that perhaps could have shown a bit more objective restraint in the cover story) –>
Since John Britten’s passing has a new project with such interesting dynamics & ambitious goals been witnessed by the current ages? Furthermore, has such an endeavor been started in recent times from the United States? No. This story was/is huge. Thousands are craving for a competitive US racer.
The Moto C company is not comprised of posers regardless if people have a problem with the hoopla to this point. There are many talented people that took this opportunity for numerous reasons, one of which is simply an enormous challenge. Challenging the status quo, while challenging themselves. These will be better engineers when its all over.
hoyt says
And I agree, documentaries about Ducati, Guzzi, Moto Morini, Buell, KTM, et al are sorely missed.
I also find interest in the Moto Czsyz story.
I just hope they have success because it will be that much more difficult for other American motorcycles to be born.* Czsyz has experienced the difficulty of raising cash after the Indian & Excelsior failures, so a lot is ‘riding’ on this project.
*it is crazy that a US-made, production, competitive racer (priced within the Ducati 1098 range) does not exist.
Tom says
You make some good points, Hoyt, and I’m a little ashamed of myself for not rooting for the little guy.
. . . but if you’ll allow me to (respectfully) continue the role of devil’s advocate. . .
Where can they even race?
They aren’t going to race Moto GP. Even if they had a snowball’s chance of being competitive (the realist in all of us has to recognize they don’t) they don’t have an 800 cc engine and didn’t start developing an 800 cc engine when they had a chance back when Moto GP announced they would switch to 800 cc (and before MC had really gotten too heavy into their engine development).
To my knowledge, they don’t have any plans to make a true street bike (and put in all the EPA testing etc. that would be required for a street-bike).
If they don’t make a street-bike, then they can’t race in WSBK or AMA Superbike. I don’t think the AMA is likely to let an exotic bike like this skirt the rules to compete in a class that is designed for production based bikes.
So we’ve just crossed off all of the big racing classes. I guess they could probably find some club races that would allow them, but who’s going to be impressed by a bike like this winning club-races?
Now maybe there is a workable plan being pursued, but if so, I haven’t heard it.
After I allowed myself to get excited by the initial hype, I’ve learned cynicism over the last few years (and felt a little conned – though I guess I should blame my own gullibility).
I think I’ve also been a little put off by the fact that, while Michael C. clearly is a “little guy” his initial intention of jumping into Moto GP just smelt of . . . arrogance.
I think it would be esier to root for an effort like this if he was a guy working out of his garage, scrapping it up at the club level as he refines his design and makes a serious effort to climb the ladder rather than a guy sitting in a fancy office in $2000 suits talking about how much better his design is than the ones that are actually out there racing.
I’m still trying to keep an open mind, but I won’t really start paying attention until they have SOMETHING to show.
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greer says
*it is crazy that a US-made, production, competitive racer (priced within the Ducati 1098 range) does not exist.
What about the new buell? obviously it hasn’t had a chance to prove itself yet, and its down on power compared to a 1098, but I don’t see why it couldn’t be competitive.
As for the czysz I don’t really understand its purpose, other than a rich guy toy. I still think it has some interesting engineering, and wouldn’t mind seeing a documentary about it(or any racebike for that matter).
hoyt says
Tom – good points about the racing classes. Who knows where it will end up, but the limited-run of bikes that people purchased (obscenely expensive) may qualify them for WSB or AMA (don’t know). It will be interesting to see if they end up with an 800 cc GP bike or proceed with the homogolation minimum.
Careful about the comments about expensive suits and such. As far as I know, he built his wealth from his own company. The topic of personal wealth & personal fashion can quickly run wide of the topic at hand. And, more relative to this discussion, he and his old man built the first V4 in his own garage. If you recall, they band-sawed 2 GSXR engines in half and put the repsective halves together.
As far as claims about better designs….the C1 front-end (when applied to an R1) has been ridden by various racers and they note quite an improvement. So, there is credibility in certain areas already.
I’m not completely backing Michael Czsyz since I don’t know him. I did congratulate him at the Seattle CW show where his bike debuted. He & the small number of engineers have accomplished a lot in a short time. Yeah, they have a lot ahead of them, but here’s to taking on the giants, and hell, maybe introducing some ideas that will lead to other ideas.
PigIron – you are a cranky —– aren’t you? Much of your posts throughout the Kneeslider are negative.
Your post above runs way wide and wreaks of not being informed.
“Rich yuppie” ? So, you have a problem with people building wealth through their own business? Is that what this is about instead of the dozens of engineers? Czysz and his old man did a lot of their own building before using their own CNC machines acquired through his own money & sponsorship money.
“Has the twin crank engine ever turned over?” What have you been reading (or haven’t been reading is more like it)?
Who the hell is comparing his bike to John Britten? Not me. Stating a documentary about John Britten to be aired is nowhere near comparing the C1 to the Britten.
Greer – yes the Buell is close. It will be much closer when they bring the engine production to the States. My point about a US racer is that the Italians/Japanese can build several competent racebikes at a competitive price, but the talent in this country can’t yet muster 1 bike that has its engine designed and built here at a reasonable price. [the Corvette is the exact opposite of what is sorely missing in the 2-wheeled American scene: hot performance in a stylish package at a good price, comparatively-speaking to its market]
“Rich guy toy” ? What is with you people pissing and moaning about the fact that Czysz is rich? Go to some other social forum to debate that topic as it is a separate matter.
P.P. says
I have seen a pre-release copy, and as a documentary it is an interesting insight into the birth of a new product. Whether you you believe in what Michael Czysz is trying to do or not, you have to respect the guy for thinking outside the box and actually producing his vision. I understand it is supposed to be released in the US in late Dec, early Jan but dont quote me on that.
greer says
I wasn’t talking about czysz being rich(is he?), I don’t know anything about him other than he created this bike, and I don’t see any pissing or moaning in my post. I was referring to prospective buyers, its a $100,000 motorcycle that apparently can’t be raced in a specific class. So if its not bought by a racing team, than its probably bought by an individual for pleasure, ie “rich guy toy”. I did not mean this in a derogatory way and I’m sorry if it came across like that. I’ve always thought the c1 was really interesting and I love its design, but I still think it will just become a rich guy toy.
John says
funny the idiots putting Czysz down for not meeting thier expectations.They probably have a hard time talking themselves into getting of thier fat asses to take a piss let alone build a brand new bike of unique design from scratch.
hoyt says
Greer – thanks for the clarification.
I agree with the rich guy toy in that regard – that lack of an exotic American bike (besides the new Buell) with a production volume to keep the price in reach is increasingly frustrating…
(hence the comment about a missing American 2-wheeled equivalent to the Corvette). That is, the American-made Corvette takes on the sports cars from around the world in performance & style, while also beating them on price (until the new Nissan comes out next year).
I’ll look for the documentary
Tom says
Hoyt, the AMA homologation (the easiest high-profile class for them to homologate) rules require 150 bikes for bikes sold at 99 dealers or less BUT, the key point is they must be “Road Certified” and available through US dealers.
They can probably sell 150 bikes, but they will have to be real bikes. The EPA has a LOT of requirements – not only will they have to pass noise and pollution requirements, but I’ve heard that the reason Buells have the ugly “cheese-grater” hanging out over the back tire is that’s an EPA (or DOT, not sure) requirement.
They will obvioulsy also need starters, turn signals, headlights, batteries and alternators capable of running those devices, and I believe there are other extensive safety tests required.
If that’s the route they are going (and they have the money to get there) then I might become interested again, but I haven’t yet heard them state that they are going to make road-certified bikes. . . so until that happens they will have to go MOTO GP . . . but I haven’t heard anything about an 800 cc engine.
So either they’ve got a plan and just haven’t told us about it which could be good . . . or they’re basically dead in the water.
tom w. says
For those interested in seeing an American bike race at the top levels (as I am) here are the odds I’d give:
Odds of Buell 1125R (1200RR?) variation racing AMA Suberbike in 2009: 50%
Odds of MotoCzysz racing AMA Superbike in 2009: 5%
Odds of Buell in WSBK in 2009: 10%
Odds of MotoCzysz in WSBK in 2009: 1%
Odds of Buell in MotoGP in 2009: 0.1%
Odds of MotoCzysz in MotoGP in 2009: 10%
Odds of Buell in AMA FX in 2009: 60%
Odds of Fischer MRX in AMA FX in 2009: 10%
Odds of MotoCzysz in AMA FX in 2009: 0.01%
So as someone who has been waiting my whole life to see an American bike competitive in Road-racing and someone who has seen Buell take steps in that direction in the past several years, my money’s on Buell to be the first truly competitive American road-race bike.
Gary says
meh. I’ll pass on the Discovery Channel doc. I’m waiting to see him on Sundance channel. Iconoclasts with Cyzsk and Buell. Two blow hards with amazing marketing skills. No their ideas have never been proven out in competition, but thats just because they think so far outside the box. the motocyzk is the most revaloutionary thing to happen to the world since Dean Kamen’s wonder scooter.
tom w. says
Gary, I’m guessing you didn’t get a chance to demo the 1125R at any of the recent track days.
Best damn motorcycle I’ve ever ridden (no, I haven’t ridden them all, but I have ridden quite a few).
And as for not being proven in competition, Buell may not have won in the elite classes . . . yet, but they’re winning races at all other levels (Moto ST, ASRA, CCS, WERA, European endurance racing etc.) and while they haven’t won in the AMA, there have been Buells running in the AMA – and doing well considering their budgets – for the past 5 years.
Personally, I prefer the route Buell has been taking – building a solid racing foundation from the ground up – rather than the Harley/MotoCzysz method of only being interested in the highest most prestigious levels.
tirapop says
Hoyt,
I don’t think CW can be blamed for over-hyping Czysz. I think that was the point of Michael Czysz granting CW access: generate hype/buzz to scare up investors. Bike start ups have been a very mixed bag (Indian and Excelsior Henderson in this corner, Victory and Polaris in that corner). Investors would have to drink a lot of Kool Aid to believe that they were going to see any quick or sizeable return on their investments.
Trying to build a new and unique motorcycle is a praiseworthy enterprise. Czysz has had a successful career in interior architecture. He’s inspired one of his clients, Lenny Kravitz, to enter the field himself. He’s made good money, but, in the trendy market he’s sold his services, there’s a lot of churning, with his clients forever trying to remain cutting edge. Looking at his legacy, he must’ve realized that much of his work was destined to be remodelled. He goes to the “Art of the Motorcycle” exhibit and sees the Britten: a timeless monument to the genius and creativity of John Britten. Czysz might be an inspired enthusiast or he might someone trying to build a motorcycle shaped pyramid.
What I respect about Britten was his passion to race, to build something unique… notoriety being something completely incedental to his pursuits. Czysz appears to have different motivations. Actual competition seems less important than building a monument to his own cleverness. He might prove me wrong and I would love to be shut up by an American made world beater. But, so far, I don’t see that.
Tom says
“Actual competition seems less important than building a monument to his own cleverness.”
I think that is sums it up very well for me. If he was out there now, racing a GSXR with his suspension components etc. evaluating, tweaking, finding out what works not only on the bike but in terms of the rider and support team, I might believe he had actual intentions to race.
It seems like he wants to market the idea of an exotic $100,000 “race” bike . . . while avoiding actual racing at all costs.
The trailer for the documentary celebrates the amazing feat of driving a bike around a race track . . . in 2005. We’re into the 2008 race season now. Is that they best they have to offer?
There’s one very simple way for MotoCzysz and their supporters to shut naysayers like us up.
Stop talking, start racing.
hoyt says
tirapop –
I didn’t place all of the blame of over-hyping the C1 on CycleWorld. Both Czysz & CW were referenced. Notice I wrote, “CW is in part to blame…”
There are other publications to blame too. Hhhmmm, the media today isn’t sensationalizing something instead of actually reporting pros/cons to a topic?
I don’t like the hype either. However, some very smart engineers saw through the hype & took up the challenge.
As is the case with all mechanical designs, this project covers the spectrum: “no it won’t work” to “yes, it will work with x,y,z caveats”. All mechanical designs to-date have trade-offs. If the idea was that bad, Czysz would not have been able to hire the very smart people on the project and would not have gotten the partnerships involved.
Whether you like the V4 idea or not, it is a clear example of trade-offs and some may say it is an example of a “Chinese Chariot”. James Parker mentioned the V4 is trying to solve some problems of the in-line 4 that are not as significant any longer.
You state, “Actual competition seems less important than building a monument to his own cleverness.”
I’m not a 100% supporter of Michael Czsyz as some of you may think I am, but I’ll call b.s. when I see it…
Czsyz has been a club racer for years. His dad has quite a history of racing too. Whether it was to the extent of racing Britten has done, I don’t know.
In addition to Tom’s comment about supporting a race team with the C1 fork, it would not be too difficult for one of the racers he has had sample the C1 fork to put it on their own competition bike. Maybe one of those racers is already doing that? It would be a smart move. However, for full support as you suggest, it would take additional resources of an already small company, but it could be done.
“Stop talking, start racing” – I haven’t heard anything for quite awhile until this documentary came out, unless I missed something else. So, maybe Moto Czsyz is continuing to work on the task at hand now that the talking (hype) is done.
A common error I see among all of the naysayers is a lack of acknowledgement to what it takes to build an engine from scratch, much less a competition engine. I’ve said above, the initial hype & stating a date to the grid in 2 years, set M.Czsyz up for critics.
Ok, critics, get over that claim & don’t lose your own sense of what it takes to build a bike. In so doing, you’ll give his engineers some credit to see what they can do.
Don’t forget: since his initial claim to go racing, the engine size has been changed….not a quick and easy adjustment. Ask Honda & Nicky Hayden how easy it was to go from a championship to last season with the new engine size.
tirapop says
Hoyt,
I was just trying to say that the media wasn’t overhyping MC. I think Czysz cultivated the hype. He’s been able to get his bike into magazines to keep a buzz going. He brought the bike to the ’06 USGP for a photo op. I think he had an online teaser for some world wide announcement (timed for this year’s USGP?). I can’t even remember what the news was.
We are reading the same magazines. I know he has a history is club racing. But for his bike, there doesn’t appear to be any plan for imminent competition. He might lack the resources to field a bike in competition, but, if you look at the time from debut to competition, Czysz is well behind Ilmor, Foggy Petronas, or the KR3.
Britten did have the luxury of entering a class (BOTT and then BEARS) in which he could be competitive. In the CW article for the original, fully faired Britten V-1000, the bike was built in 6 months paid for by a one time real estate payoff. Britten wanted to field his bike in competition more than anything and he did. This was a different time. If he were to try that now, there might be great barriers to entry.
hoyt says
Discovery, TLC, History, etc. –
If you are reading, there are many inspiring stories to be covered in a documentary in addition to the Moto Czysz story…
how about a documentary that also includes:
coverage of the early years, then move into the current generation of smaller firms taking on the giants such as:
Ilmor Engineering
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilmor
http://www.ilmor.co.uk/motogp.php
and Drysdale
http://www.22000rpm.com/index2.html
perhaps the Ecosse partnership will be advanced far enough by the time this compilation is completed to include them, too [?]
This film would be fitting to culminate with a tribute to John Britten
hoyt says
Tirapop,
yeah, John Britten & his staff seemed to be in a league above everyone. Imagine what they would be capable of today.
Anyway, I agree about the hype. It’s really annoying.
Too much hype too soon can create negative or anxious buzz from the public and sponsors, which can result in wrong internal decisions. In turn, those decisions can impact the engineers’ effort.
Michael Czysz says
Kneeslider, Thank you for being so diligent about posting current developments about the project and as usual your forum contributors never disappoint. The opinions posted on “Not Another Chopper Show” run from the carefully worded insightful to the ill informed wildly speculative, bordering on Bradgellina or Brittney Spears type gossip.
Documentary trailer –
The clip available on MotoCzysz Documentary production company site is actually a trailer compiled by them just after the first days of shooting, thus the very dated content. This was used by Discovery International to measure the amount of interest the program may have internationally. The response was good and project was green lighted. As you may expect Hollywood rarely does motorcycle content justice.
Media coverage –
MotoCzysz has only contacted two magazines to date and only after having a finished complete running bike. Manufactures commonly show concept bikes, often non runners years before production, Ecosse is a dramatic example of this, claiming wild performance improvements from a block of wood. Over the last 6 months we have declined at least 10 interviews and more than 6 event appearances, as we try to keep a very tight reign on the hype and flow of coverage. We did of course agree to the Discovery documentary as we felt it could only help in the difficult process of launching a motorcycle company.
“After 5 years of talk”-
The proof-of-concept was first presented to the public January 05. I started designing the prototype, the bases for a production model mid 05 and we started substantive engineering January 06 and unveiled the bike 7 months later in July. The remainder of 06 was spent addressing all the problems you would expect to encounter with a clean sheet engine design. As an example- John Britten spent 10 years designing and building his bike before it races at Daytona. Buell spent 3 years creating and developing their latest bike and Buell has significant advantages over us, primarily they out sourced the engineering and manufacturing of their latest engine.
800cc –
It has been well documented (http://www.motoczysz.com/club/?p=43) that we would not drop our 990 engine in favor of an 800cc. There are two main reasons: we believe our first street bike should be a 1,000/990 as it will be compared to and need to compete with the current class of liter performance sportbikes, secondly- we felt an 800cc would need to utilize pneumatic valves. A pneumatic design not practical in a street bike and we could not afford to take on two such differing designs simultaneously.
Where to race –
From the inception MotoCzysz started out as Superbike project to be homologated and raced in the AMA. However once I started the design it became apparent this first bike by definition was a MotoGP bike, a cleans sheet prototype motorcycle, not a mass production motorcycle. Concurrently the homologating requirements for the AMA were 300 units which at the time seamed like a significant barrier.
Some of my earliest memories are from time at a race track, typically AMA events. The fact that there is no American Superbike campaigning in the American Motorcycle Association depresses and frustrates me and is a genuine motivating factor for the entire team. MotoCzysz authored the new homologation rule that the AMA adopted this year for small manufactures. We are dedicated to racing. Everyone who knows me will contest to my intense passion for racing and burning desire to see MotoCzysz race. We have several race strategies in place but first is to build and sell 150 motorcycles.
Working in a garage –
The project started in my garage, but fortunately has evolved in a small professional start-up. I was given 1 motorcycle when I was 10 and every motorcycle after that (excluding the one my wife and best friend gave to me for my 30th birthday) I earned and paid for 100%. My second bike was a clapped out yz100 I bought when I was 15, we lived in a mobile home on a dirt road my shop was a Friggin chicken coup, far from a advantage upbringing. Once I learned I could buy motorcycles by working hard I never stopped. I worked all the time, usually the worse jobs at local farms to buy my next bike. I now have what anyone else who has worked 60- 80 hours a weeks for over 25 years has. The reason MotoCzysz is still not in a garage is because I have risked nearly everything for this project, If it fails I know I have given it my all, I left nothing in reserve.
Since it was mentioned- Though hugely inspired by the Britten motorcycle, my upbringing could not have been in greater contrast to John’s, his family initially did not support his motorcycle aspirations and John did not need to work, he fortunately inherited significant wealth. This should have no bearing on how anyone perceives someone’s work and more importantly- there is no entitlement for following your dreams.
Racing VS Developing-
Contrary to what you may think, you do NOT (efficiently anyway) develop a product while racing, you develop while testing. We have been testing front ends utilizing several different bikes for 2 years. Here is the last test on a stock Honda with DOT tires and our 2-D suspension.
http://www.motoczysz.com/main.php?area=media
We are currently concentrating on developing and testing the entire holistic dynamics of a complete machine. Putting our front end on a GSXR and club racing now would be nothing more than a distraction to the larger task at hand.
Here is what one rider/writer said last month-
“I have a sense that the Czysz crew won’t be content until they win a WSC race, but first things first: my ten laps at Las Vegas went tremendously well and over the course of two days the bikes turned almost 70 laps. The bike’s smallness comes through in the way it stops, turns and accelerates, yet it offers impressive (and reassuring) stability. I know the MotoCzysz crew had about three gazillion items they weren’t happy with, but from behind the bubble, this project couldn’t be more impressive. Hey MotoCzysz…damn good job! ”
Nick Ienatsch 10-31-07
Once the bike is developed and we make and sale 150 motorcycles we can and will go racing.
Rich boys toys-
The initial runs of any product is expensive. This is fundamental economics and has a lot to do with amortizing significant initial costs or a small quantity of parts. But are initial high costs are not just a function of volume but of quality. The C-1 is made up of parts that are the highest quality many that cannot be purchased or even found on motorcycles outside of a MotoGP garage. The amount of structural carbon fiber alone on our machine costs more than an average bike. With higher volumes and constant industrialization we will work to lower the price.
$2,000 Suits-
Whatever… Rest assured, the most expensive suites I own- are my riding suites.
Accurate information-
The best source for accurate information and getting questions answered:
web site
http://www.motoczysz.com/main.php?area=home
blog
http://www.motoczysz.com/club/index.php
Enjoy the Holidays and ride safe,
Michael Czysz
Brian says
“Contagious products are disruptive. They either upset the status quo or make them go into denial. But they do not leave people unaffected.” -Guy Kawasaki
Whether people get the story straight or not, it doesn’t really matter, as long as they’re talking about it. The Motoczysz story has certainly affected people. I hope it continues to do so. -Best wishes.
Terry says
I just saw the show today,I saw the bike at Laguna in 2005.I agree there should be an American designed built race bike out there,with all the $resources HD has they should have done it?!.It`s amazing that this bike is as far along as it is!.I hope Motoczysz pulls it off.Also in 05 at their booth,I told them I moved to Oregon and I`d like to ride the bike! since I had some club racing experience.They just kinda looked at me! haha,best of luck,for now I`ll take my KTM950 supermoto