Now we’ve seen the new Vmax, or at least some early design ideas. Yamaha still needs feedback so I thought I would send some their way. Yamaha, are you taking notes?
Memo to Yamaha:
The Vmax, when first introduced, was a knock down, take no prisoners muscle bike, and everyone knew it. Those days are long past. A lot of current sportbikes will kick sand in the face of Mr. Max and feel no fear, he’s a little slow and stiff. So if you’re going to reintroduce him, what do you do?
The Vmax was never intended to be a corner carver, it’s a straight line point and shoot weapon that sounds like nothing else (with proper pipes) and with v-boost it gave you that rush at 6,000rpm that felt like all hell was breaking loose. Loads of fun! I know, I’ve owned two. Don’t try to be all things to all riders, there are a small number of Vmax devotees who will buy one as soon as they’re available plus new initiates who want the same experience in terms even a current rider can understand and that takes horsepower, brutal horsepower plus the sound of a V4 with a great set of cams. So here are a few ideas:
The rear tire on the concept at 200/50R18 is getting there but we could go a bit wider. Forget curves, we’re talking straight lines here, we need rubber to harness horsepower.
Dump the shaft drive. A swingarm with a good chain is lighter and gives owners more flexibility for wider wheels and long swingarms for drag racing. Conversions from shaft drive are a lot of work. Look at some of the best customs Vmax fans have built over the last 20 years, lots of chain drive.
Carbs are long out of date so the old v-boost setup is passe but how about supercharging? Blowers give street cred like few things can. A turbo could work, too, but a supercharger does away with lag and just has that badass look and sound that sets it apart. Those scoops could serve a real purpose!
Forget the Yamaha saddlebags and windshields. Build a line of factory drag accessories like extended swingarms, special cams, big bore kits, wheelie bars, that sort of thing. Maybe if the supercharger is too radical for the standard machine, offer it as a factory speed part.
Push the envelope. The Vmax was crazy when it first came out and lasted a long time, be crazy again. Cosmetic updates will disappoint everyone unless the machine means business, don’t ruin a great name. You don’t need a practical road cruiser, Yamaha has lots of high volume road bikes, this is a special purpose halo machine, make the name mean something again. Introduce a new generation of riders to the mean and nasty Mr Max!
Be sure to check the current Vmax for sale listings.
Phillip Goode says
Well said “Thekneeslider”. Next Vmax should be the 1/4 mile king or forget it all together; even for us “mature” riders of 250 pound weight. If it will not beat the other prototypes then forget it.
Oh, how about taking care of its well known handling problem? I experienced a 118 mph tank slapper on my 98 Vmax four years ago but still love the beast. I have put an additional 38K miles on it since then for a total of over 68K miles.
Gaijin Biker says
I have a grudge against the V-Max for lasting over 20 years in production, while my beloved X-4 came and went in only 7 (1997-2003).
aaron says
with the need to satisfy everyone (even the boring people who want all their power on tap at 2000rpm) i think yamaha will err on the safe side. I say offer 2 bikes and 5 states of tune (with factory warrenty if dealer installed) the 2 bikes:
1) wide tire/low seat pro-street drag style (30 deg rake)
2) narrow(190)tire, premium suspension, streetfighter stance.
2 variants of a bike that’s sold well enough to justify it’s long lifespan pales in comparison to the dozens of virago/star variants we’ve seen come and go. if yamaha feels the need to offer a crap (sorry, civilized) motor like the latest version of the v-max engine family (as found on the star V4) they can make that stage one. stages 2-5 can jump 10-25 hp at a time, from 100 to 200+ on a supercharged, premium priced stage 5. (and yamaha has shown with the new R1 that limited run, premium priced bikes are not on their fear list.) like the warrior, all the streetfighter stuff can come from the r1, so no new parts other than a new frame and swingarm need to be made to build v2. most dealers will order stage 2-4 bikes, stage 5 will act as a halo unit like the honda rune, and when the wussy stage one tanks, the whole model will not be seen as a failure (just get me going on bmw’s r1200c…with the v-rod as it’s closest techno-cruiser competition why not offer the motor as found on the r1200s???)
the new V-max must be an evil monster that scores cover stories and creates a new legend if it is to last another 10-20 years with few changes.
hoyt says
This could be a bigger R&D, Engineering, Product Marketing, Production, etc. challenge than Ducati faced with the replacement of the 916. There are many enthusiasts from a wider range of riding styles going to weigh in on this new model than those that weighed in on the 999. I think Ducati succeeded after much doubt.
For the new Max : (not much that hasn’t already been mentioned by the Kneeslider) –> Functional scoops, a beefy set of upside-down forks (50 mm size — similar to the MV Augusta Brutale or Confederate Hellcat ), & a wide tire should be on the base model. Then, throw in a surprise for everyone after the long wait (single-sided swingarm ?).
Russell Yamazaki says
You’ve waited 20 years to update the Max, don’t forget it’s roots as the baddest bike on the planet. Remember you’re not going for the crotchrocket market.
You need a wider rear tire, with less weight. Fix the handling issues, & above all massive amounts of horsepower everywhere.
Richard Beauregard says
For the practical person, the shaft drive works. Keeps things clean and simple. If horsepower is the issue, then I would gladly give up the shaft drive. New Vmax needs more Horsepower, Larger diameter rear wheel, along with a wider rear tire. Up Front, the forks need big upgrade. No more wobble issues please! Keep away from crotchrocket style rear end. Wife still likes to ride on back with me. As mentioned, it needs to be quater mile KING! Thank you!
V1992max says
I can’t wait for this bike to come out. I think Yamaha will take into concideration the issues the Vmax currently has (mostly suspension), especially if they want this bike to last just as long as our beloved bike has been out. This bike does need to be the “baddest” bike on the street, just like in ’85. A 6th gear behind a severly upgraded (all new) motor and a frame and suspension that could handle those speeds would be the major concerns I have. If the bike turns out to be as mean as the pictures make it look, I am going to put my down payment as soon as they let me.
Alan Coupar says
Agree with most of the above. Been waiting a long time for a “sorted” Max !
USD forks
190 (plus) rear tyre
six pot brakes
and how about an underseat pipe ??????
Denis says
Here we are talking about THE MACHINE , Yamaha created a monster 20 years ago and they have to keep up with this reputation , so LOTS of raw power and the usual WAR MACHINE LOOK !!! But please no chrome on the scoop , you will never see chrome on a war machine right ? And why dont make them reel air intake this time ? Beside that , the bike design is excellent, oh yes please remove that plastic cover on the rear seat IT’S A WAR MACHINE not a BMW !!
Denis
Ryan Kosanke says
I hope Yamaha reads these comments and any other positive input for the long overdue VMAX evolution. The new Star brand name needs a shocking bike to make every power cruiser lover in the world drool and thid could potentially be it. The new Vmax MUST be BAD, with power that will be on par with a Busa or ZX14. If it isn’t a quartwer mile king again it will be a flacid attempt at supporting a legendary name. I agree with the majority of ideas above for more power especially the concepts of power upgrade kits such as the Warrior, 200+ rear tire, CHAIN DRIVE please. The one picture I’ve seen of the Tokyo concept looks too fat with body work. The Vmax should be lean and mean. No under seat pipes please.
john mitchell says
a bigger petrol tank would be nice,with the original v-max the petrol tank was just too small the least times l have to stop to fill my new v-max( when it is out on sale in the u.k.) with feul on my travels the better. l have all the confidence that the new yamaha v-max will be an awsome piece of kit thank you yamaha for not killing off the v-max and going foreward with the new v-max and hopefully it will be at an affordable price in the u.k. well done yamaha.
steven says
The new V-max needs to be the big quarter mile king it was 20 years ago. It needs a lot more power and a bigger tank. The bike should look mean and fast. It needs to be one of those bikes people look at and say “god that thing looks mean and fast.”
David says
Absolutely agree with the above comments. I had to sell my ’92 Vmax and have been waiting for the next generation to come out. . .but it has to have BIG power, at least 150bhp. . .again, that’s brake horsepower, not measured at the crank. Functional Scoops Yamaha, come on now. Stiffen the chassis and add some high quality fully adjustable shocks and inverted forks. I’d prefer to see 180 or 190 wide tire, nothing over 200, I’m gonnna have to buy lots of these tires. The new bike has to hang tough and STABLE in the corners. The current one doesn’t, and those high speed wobbles around the corners can get scary real fast.
Michael says
Ok Yamaha keep it simple, but most important keep affordable!
We need more fuel capacity, a MONO SHOCK SWING ARM, CHAIN DRIVE, lighter chassis that are more flickable and how about hooking real intake scoops to FUEL Injectors!
Oh yeah, how about letting Corbin design the seat, we will need it with the larger gas tank!
Thanks for making the Vmax so unconventional, let us keep it that way!
giuseppe says
una moto piu leggera,piu stabile,gomma piu larga,faro piu luminoso,serbatoio piu grande,200cv deve essere di nuovo la piu forte sul quarto di miglio e deve restarci per un bel po.alimentazione ad iniettori ,consumi piu ridotti.
RonnRamm says
This has to be the King of the 1/4 mile or it isn’t worthy of the name. Please let not be like Pontiac and the GTO. Break out the big guns on this one and take no prisoners. A 200 size rear tire would be excellent!!!!! And put those Ram Air Intakes to use for more than an aggressive look. Drop the old school shocks for an air ride suspension. Having the capability to drop the rear end for some quarter mile fun in an instant. Would be greatly appreciated. You could have a touring height for hitting some mountain roads and in an instant drop it down for some 1/4 mile hell raising. Now that is what the V-Max is all about.
Jim says
First off, Thank You for making the bike! Keep the 190/200 tire, make it a chain drive, and fix the front suspension. The bike has a reputation of being ‘MEAN”… keep it that way. Increase the cc’s to 1800 minimum, make the side intake scoops functional, and fuel injection. Can’t wait to get my hands on one…. I like the idea of a drag bike/race kit.
TERRY BRUMLEY says
150 HP WILL NOT DO IT, MORE LIKE 225 AT REAR WHEEL TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE FOR A FEW YEARS AND ADD A TACH, READABLE.
Dennis (murph) says
Keep the mould of badass machine. I have owned mine since new, 1998, when ridden properly, and well maintained it still makes a good account of it’s self.
Cornering I find not to be a big issue.
The new look should lose the lower rad, flatten the rear pillion seat. Only bike I would change it for would be an affordable new V-MAX, no other way to travel but ballstic
Frank J. Altieri says
The new V-Max needs to regain its title as king of the quarter mile (break 10 seconds). The top end should also be at the legal limit for production motorcycles (200 mph). This will put the Boss Hoss and Hayabusa where they belong (which is behind). Nothing pulls away from a V-Max!
Gary Wiggins says
The reborn V-Max should be about 100 lbs. lighter, horsepower increase of 20-25%, improved suspension, brakes and handling in general. If equipped with boost, bring it on at 3000 rpm. Fuel injection preferred. This should make the bike capable of 10 second (or sub) runs with experienced rider. My ’97 still puts a huge smile on my face EVERY time that I educate younger riders that brute horsepower and guts will outrun modern technology and ignorance most of the time. Whenever it doesn’t, it’s still fun.
Paul Dayton says
I have a 86 (owned it since I put together in the crate) model and believe me I Salivate & my heart rate goes up everytime I fire my OLD Vmax up & working in the motorcycle industry I have always known that YAMAHA would eventually update the current Vmax to be another killer machine that it already is, I do agree with all that is mentioned above– SO whatever they do come out with my order/downpayment is in immediately IN!– PLease hurry YAMAHA I can’t wait any longer…
Byron LJ says
I own a 85 Vmax and it is fun to ride, and I think the design we are looking at is fine, but the only thing I would change on this new design is to put double headlights on the front similar to the Triumph, I think the bike would be a hot bike. Its will look a little more sporty but still you know it a Vmax. Try the look with the double headlights it would set it off right.
Dustin Rowland says
Make it happen! No undertail exhaust. Needs to be the quarter mile king as it once was back in the day. Needs to have wave rotors, brembo brakes damn good suspension to handle that power. Slipper clutch would be great. Keep the V boost thou! And a price for the masses.. Put BMW back in its place from their current adverstising phrase “most powerful and fastest” in that catergory.. Make them eat their words… Do it I will buy….
jim says
If you want to leave feedback go to this Yamaha site
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/star/products/modelhome/23/home.aspx
They have a link to the future model survey!
Hope we see one soon.
Dave Alfonso says
The style tries to maintain too much of the old V-Max. After 20 years, the bike needs to look like it was designed in this century. Lose the intake scoops as they appear on the new bike. They look like a couple of big, ugly bolt-ons. Integrate the scoops into the sides of the tank and make them the same color. Keep the shaft drive. The new Max doesn’t need to blow everything off the road. It just needs to perform respectably in a straight and not take a back seat to the sport bikes in the twisties.
Jim Sauve' says
This is MY version of the NEXT V-MAX!
It will REMAIN a drag bike concept. PLEASE Yamaha…DON’T belittle the VMAX name and rep. The new VMAX MUST kick-butt!! Like a X-MAX bike would.
I am talking either SuperCharged or a Six cylinder engine, must have 4 big exhaust pipes with a scary mean sound..(until SuperTrapp makes some pipes for it) I like shaft drive because of the maintainance issue..but I am flexible. Funtional Scoops…we have been faking it for 20 years now..make them real.
Why not make it a 225hp & 2000cc+ & 250+ rear tire, with a Corbin created seat, a SPA designed gauges…with their 1/4 mile time options and changing color readable tach. And what would be wrong with an Oil Temp + Pressure gauge. Bigger fuel tank. A HUGE cooling system is a MUST. (it cost me $500 to get a custom built rad for my hopped up ’85 Max) and a charging system that could power a house..so when you are stuck in traffic and idling…Max won’t EVER overheat. And maybe a futuristic headlight with 2 piaa lights.
Make a VMAX that will scare people again!!!
I’m already saving for the deposit!!!!
Thank-you Yamaha for recreating the beloved VMAX….don’t let us or the name VMAX down!!!!
Kenneth Cresci says
I bought my Vmax new in 1985. I still own and ride it today! I have been waiting for an updated model for a long time. Most of the post’s are about right,however I would miss the reliability and “no maintienance” feature of the shaft drive.Sure the shaft eats up horse power(probably close to20),but if this new Vmax is done correctly it wheel be a moot point. A 1500cc Vmax in its present configuration will chew up and spit out any current sport bike of any size. Obviously, cammed and valved correctly,an 1800cc modelw/ fuel injection,ram air, up graded igntion,and lightened would be the last word in 1/4 mile performance!! forget about trying to make it corner with the sportbikes-forget about massive suspension,and frame modifications-it has been, is,and always will be a straight line machine-make it rock solid and reliable,then sign me up.A price of upto and including $17,000 would be justified (and I predict) paid by riders like me (who have the money)
Ernesto Diaz Rodriguez says
Well i have a 2001 Mr Max and since i have it motorcycle world changed BUT i always said IF i can ask for something will be 1st less weight 2nd please (dont need to be to clever) inverted suspension and real brakes for this kind of bike anything after is a good plus like 200 or + hps, more handling and cornering little bit of stiling and a big catalogue of aftermarket stuff (for making it faster or wider tires styling) remember V-max riders we dont need neither a super bike or an elegant and comfortable cruiser we want tons of power, unike design and something that last for another 20 years i know isnt easy to beat this motorcycle but after + than 20 years i know yamaha can amaze us again THANKS!!!!!
Pat Brown says
After reading all of the posts, the debate between chain and shaft seems to be the biggest. I say, do whatever it takes to make it the king again. If I have to tighten and lube a chain occasionally to make some Busa look slow, fine. The two most important things are bad-ass looks and the horsepower to back them up.
Paul K says
I’ve been in love with the current V-max for 20 years, but by the time I had the money for one (late 90’s) it was too dated to justify $11k. I will have my deposit down when they start taking orders for the new ones.
My thoughts; please no ABS or traction control (I saw this question on the survey). This isn’t a touring bike. It’s a brutal, basic, single purpose machine (straight line fast with no equal). The look needs to match it’s power and command respect from all, even Harley guys and Busa riders (they need to figuratively call me “sir” when I ride up on them). All motor with a wheel at each end. No crotch rocket cues, no harley cues, no chrome, unique, timeless, unprecedented… and fix all the prior shortcomings (headshake, brakes, fuel tank size, dated styling, etc.)
Highest practical horsepower/torque. I wouldn’t pay more than $15k for any bike. You should still be able to get 200hp from a naturally aspirated 1800cc+ V4. A supercharger may make it cost prohibitive. You’ll sell twice as many at $13,499 than at $15,499.
I like the new (and old) view from right behind the bike. The pipes and tire make the bike look a mile wide, super low, and brutally powerful. You know it’s something scary when you ride up on one from behind.
A unique dual headlight might work. I didn’t like the old one (the small headlight made the front end look spindly), and I don’t like the new one (wierd). Whatever it is, it needs to be timeless. Continuously changing crotch rocket headlight styles are the first indicator of a sport bikes “date”.
Definitely a real rear seat. What’s the point of a bike like this without accomodations for eye candy on the back?
And since the cost of this bike will put most owners over 30, how about comfortable and easy to put miles on (riding my Ducati Monster is like pulling my teeth….continuously…every mile…over and over…again and again). My buddies 2005 Max is comparatively like riding a couch. I like it.
Shaft or Chain? Get the power to the ground. Don’t care, but low maintenance is better than high if there’s a choice.
A 200 section tire is fine. Cornering should not be a priority, but I don’t want it to handle like a dump truck (or worse yet, a Softtail).
The scoops are cool, but be sure they work with the lines of the bike and don’t just “tack them on” for nostalgia. Functional would be cool too.
Ahmed J says
#1 Horsepower – Do care how you do it, just do it!
#2 1/4 GOD…..Dont care for high end, just drop it and DROP IT!
#3 Refer to #1 and #2
#4 Make standard after market parts. Wheels, Pipes, Mods
#5 Get Samuel L. Jackson to dress up like the Movie Pulp Fiction and Describe the New V-Max at release…..
Where do I leave my deposit?
kneeslider says
Samuel L. Jackson … Yep, I LIKE that idea!
gregg says
cut weight instant hp gain go with chain drive
update suspension try to make prehaps larger displacement
1500cc
gregg
Bill Goswick says
Gary Wiggins is right – the new V-Max should be at least 100 pounds lighter, and produce at least 20 percent more power than the old one. And Yamaha should keep the V-4 design, convert to fuel injection, and either up the compression or add a supercharger. It’s time to make it the king again. If they will do the above, I’ll definitely buy a new one!
Bill G.
Ron N. says
Regarding weight–we need to get practical here. Granted the V-Max has always been heavy, but it’s impractical to think that the new version could weigh in at 500# or less. A ‘Busa weighs about 550# with full tank and all fluids (despite what Suzuki advertises), and it’s unlikely that a filled up V-Max would weigh significantly less since it’s not intended to be in the liter-bike racer class.
Regarding chain vs. shaft, even new-age chains require maintenance–my ‘Busa had suggested lubing every 600 miles. Put on center stand (i.e, a rear wheel type requiring two people), clean, take off center stand, ride to warm up chain, back on center stand, lube, take off center stand, let cool for 30 minutes–and so on. I’m 55, owned first ‘Max in 1985, and the shaft, while being a bit less efficient than a chain, was a dream in terms of maintenance. Sold the ‘Busa primarily due to back aches and chain issues–us old gassers will gladly spend $15K for a balls-out HP monster (200 or so) with shaft drive that doesn’t hurt to ride. How much power will current shaft drive technology withstand? I didn’t notice much ring/pinion jacking effect with the original version, but I don’t know how a significant power increase will impact this or other issues regarding shaft reliability.
I think Yamaha has a dilemma regarding how to market this bike–oldsters like me of which there are relatively few that would consider a Japanese bike (mostly Harley want-to-be’s), youngsters that want HP but either can’t afford it and/or insure it, or magazine editors that want everything from world class straight-line performance, to world class canyon carving handling, and world class braking performance all wrapped up in an “all around” bike. The 1985 version cost $5800 out-the-door at MSRP and, three months after “being the first on the block” to own one, they were discounted $500 or more because they weren’t selling despite raving reviews. I lived in the SF Bay Area, and I didn’t see another one anywhere, except in show rooms, for three months after buying mine. I rarely see one today even though they’re still manufactured. While Max created a cult following of admirers, tuners, and accessory manufacturers, it has never sold in quantities that Yamaha would consider large. My bet is that Yamaha will build a new version primarily for marketing reasons (i.e., bragging rights in the cruiser class only), political correctness will keep crank power below 200HP (although the ZX-14 is currently pushing that envelope), it will weigh about 550# wet, no guess regarding drive mechanism, and I’ll likely buy one.
Ron N. says
Error regarding prospective weight–probably more like 580-600# wet.
Ronald says
I understand that there are 94.999 V-maxes besides mine 😉 This means there must be 95.000 drivers that are getting more and more tired of being passed by more and more of these ‘plastic’ bikes and we want
R A W P O W E R R R R R R
and we want everybody to see that we are sitting on raw power ( the concept is a nice start). We want ‘their’ respect again, no incorrectly put – we want ‘them’ to FEAR us again. We want ‘them’ to still talk in awe about the V-Max in the year 2026 and we want it NOW !!!!
Ronald says
CHECK THIS OUT – YAMAHA ASKING FOR FEEDBACK ON THIS CONCEPT
http://www.next-vmax.com
Lets us ( all 95.000! ) ask for P O W E R
MaxLover says
Looking at the photos from the Tokyo show, I like most of what I see. The rear fender, however, looks bulky and strange to me. It appears too massive. I take it the new Max will not allow a passenger to ride. That may be ok, but make the rear fender look mean, not huge like a cadillac’s trunk.
I echo what everyone is saying – the most important thing is raw acceleration. The new Max should renew the tradition of being the fastest thing on two wheels launching in a straight line. Anything that could be done to better the cornering and high speed handling should be done. However, brute force acceleration has to be the main concern.
Yamaha – I don’t care what it will cost. I will buy this bike if it is a rocket.
vmoa2624 says
1st off it needs to remain a hot rod cruiser and King of the 1/4 mile. It looks fine after 20 years, don’t change the look. It must have a passenger seat. Keep the scoops and make them functional with fuel injection. Keep the shaft drive but make it strong enough to handle a ton of horsepower.V-4, 1800+cc. A 6 speed transmission. Stronger frame is a must. More of a R1 inverted front end and brakes. Dual exhaust has to stay, not under the seat. Enough room to shove some big rubber under that rear fender.
Steve says
1st, let’s ditch the shaft or have a chain option. Want me to give up my 89 VMAX for new? That’ll take at least 180 hp, and at the rear wheel. Give me something I can’t convert this 89 to. I hope I get one while I still can ride one. Just these few things and I believe they’ll sell, I’d buy even with the marginal brakes (todays standards) and low fuel capacity.
Kevin Black says
Its not a crotch rocket, its a V-max. Less plastic, more chrome, more horsepower. Keep it looking like a V-max, but design it to scare both todays Harleys and crotch rockets.
dr.death says
If i’m gonna buy a new vmax, i want a few things (obvious things).
1. More power than anybody else
2. SCARY sounds
3. Respect (fear) from other riders
4. I want to crap my pants everytime I twist the throttle.
Rodrigo Specht says
Vmax is a torque machine! It is built for a single purpouse: straight line brutal acceleration. So, for this all it needs is lots of torque.
I really don’t care if new Vmax will have 180 or 300 hp of power, or even if it will get 300 km/h. I want a machine in wich I must be tied by ropes or chains at time of full throtlle!!
Please Yamaha, actualize its design!!! Make a contemporary bike… Those exausts looks really great. That black beast concept it’s very nearly the perfection. Redesign the scoops. Fat rear tires. And torque…
Pat says
– Make it mean
– Make it powerful
– Make it fast
– Make it look really bad
– Give it a great sound
– Give it a terminator look. The bike needs to have a real bad boy image (no pussy cruiser)
This bike needs to rock and kick ass.
That’s what we are waiting for.
Joe says
My take on the redesigned Vmax is this.
I love the V-4. I think they should keep that engine, but punch it out to a displacement of no less than 1500cc (1800cc would be nice though). Acres and acres of torque and hp are what we want. It doesn’t all need to be available at 2-4k RPMs, one of the things we love about the Max is being able to rev to 10-11K RPM….The sound of the V-4 at that level is pure heaven.
The shaft drive is great, but redesign the swingarm and pivot to reduce shaft jacking, and take a note from BMW on the “sealed for life” shaft unit.
Chain drive would be fine, but Mr. Max came with a shaft, and he can stay that way and keep us all happy. Perhaps offer a line of different final drives for the shaft and make it easy to swap them (aside from a small HP gain, that’s the only advantage of chain drive IMO)
Don’t fool yourselves!! The Max may not have been intended for corners, but it would and will do them better than any other power cruisers (well, deeper corners, but with a bit more drama). Let’s not lose that ability. This means 17″ hoops on each end. A 200mm tire in the rear should give enough Attitude while still retaining the ability to corner well. Upside down forks up front are a REQUIREMENT! Single shock rear? Not necessary (Ohlins makes some nice twin shock and since Yamaha is affiliated with Ohlins now….). Lastly The frame will need to be beefed up for the new model! I’m not talking supersport perimeter style, but given how well the the Warrior is put together, let’s see something similar.
Fuel Injection is a must, carbs are out. But perhaps use a twin injector setup that kicks in at a given RPM (offers nice tune-ability with the addition of a Power Commander). Don’t worry about the exhaust, slap whatever you like on there, we’re all lunatics and we’ll change it anyway.
Aesthetically, I’d like to see black. Lots of black. Black powder coat, black paint. Very little if no chrome is fine with me. Brushed aluminum fits the Max much better any day.
Lastly, I think the fellow that mentioned the line of speed accessories was onto something. A Yamaha sanctioned line of hop-up, dress up parts would be excellent!
Carl Talbot says
The new Mr Max needs at leasts 200 rear wheel horsepower and 200 N.m of torque.The engine of V4 1800cc at least.The gearing must be so that it can at least run a quarter mile in the below 9 seconds and at least have a top speed of 300 km/h.A sixth gear is a must.Some sort of factory aftermarket flyshield is an absolute must.The feul tank must hold at least 20 l.The bike fully feuled up should not weigh more than 240kg.
Also it must have:
-upside down front forks
-monoshock rear
-6 pot front calipers
– ram air intakes that are huge
-feul injection
-Rear tyre not fatter than 190.This thing MUST be able to corner well too.There is no excuse for a modern bike not to be able to corner well
-Loads and loads of badass polished alluminium .
Make a Vmax that will take the competitors another 20 years to catch up to and that will also be unchanged for long on the market .Forget style and convention,give us raw viscious unaduterated muscle-the ultimate hot rod power cruiser muscle bike super cruiser ever built.
Then I will purchase one and keep it parked at home next to my original Vmax. which I intend to keep.
Carl Talbot-Limpopo ,South Africa
Pete Van says
I too am an older rider with a preference for cruiser styled bikes with closer to sportbike performance. I prefer shaft drive, but can give it up to keep the hp up. Personally, I like the 80s styling of the current vmax. I think we keep the vmax the two wheel version of the classic muscle car. I agree that hp in the 170-200 range is what we’re looking for. I like the look of the engine, frame, wheels and exhaust of the concept bike. The new max needs the following: a sixth gear, a passenger seat, upgraded brakes, a modern suspension with good handling in the twisties (maybe not sportbike, but better than other cruisers). I think a 200 rear wheel is a good compromise, but a little bigger would also work.
If Yamaha can keep the price in the 13-14K range, they should sell a alot of them. Look at the Suzuki M109, $12,300 MSRP and they’re selling like crazy.
Leppard says
Being an owner of 3 V-Maxes over the years, I love the bike more than ever now. Mr. Max is a distinctive shadow in the midst of all other bikes riding around it. Hard for me to comprehend this sometimes, but I will still pull up in a parkinglot of a dealership on my 2006 Max and get “Wow! thats an awesome, mean-looking bike! What is it??” And I think WTF!!!! Where have you been the past 22 years dork!?
I like some things about the new Max, and I think alot needs to be changed on it.
1. Those swoopy air scoops are borderline gay, and need to be squared off, with straight angles not the bubbly-volkswagen bug detail it has. And most importantly, make them WORK! Possibly have electronic leuvers on the front of them that open when the V-boost kicks in, for a more awesome rush! REAL RAM AIR!
2. Keep the carbs, there is no need for fuel injection on the new bike. IF Yamaha chooses throttle bodies, somehow there better be a type of New-Generation V-Boost to accompany them.
3. I prefer the shaft drive over the chain because of maintenance issues, and keeping the bike clean. Either way, if its done right, it is a minor change.
4. Mind bending, shoulder dislocating, butt puckering, insane HORSEPOWER. Yamaha had better just fughetaboutit if they don’t bring the Max close to 200rwhp. Zx14 is almost there. Its all about outdoing the rest, especially the squid-hunchy-down-plastic racer boys. I had to put $4000 in aftermarket accessories on my Max, from UFO to even get close to 150rwhp, and BARELY can beat my friends Busa. in a straight up to 100. I know I speak for 90% of us, are you listening Yamaha? Make it a respected, feared, slightly-disturbed, horsepower flexing, rocket. Can I make myself any more clear? 1400-1500cc’s would be great on a V4 Max.
5. Z rated at least a 190 rear wheel, no more biasply cheezeball tires from 1985! Wide, powerful, and sticky please.
6. An aluminum frame would be a BIG plus, and invert the front fork with a REAL brace, and possibly a steering damper. Make it handle the twisties a little more stable. The old frame needs braces to keep it from flexing, how about a rigid frame this time? Don’t forget single shock, under the seat suspension fully adjustable out back.
7. Try NOT to vary or stray from the original looks of the V-Max. Your not going to sell to the others who hate the V-max anyway, so don’t try and kiss thier butts by making it look like a new-age pansy cruiser, designed to look funky. WE DONT WANT THAT!!! Keep most of the original design looks, and make the bike more functional, and better, stronger, faster! Think squared off design, and beefy. No round, swoopy, new-age, design. Maybe Yamaha can consult with the original design team, I bet THEY will do the best job, not some college kid using a computer program. Keep the style, and heart of the machine intact! And finally, those pipes look ridiculous! What the hell were you thinking Yamaha? They are BAD, remember, “MEAN” both looks and sounding.
8. Very controvercial here is the headlight. I PERSONALLY think that a single rectangular headlight (smaller than an automobile’s) would make the bike look more menacing from the front. No dual headlights, or slant eyed-looking like the rest of the crotch rockets either.
9. Cockpit instruments. They are very cool the way they are, they are functional, and very unique to any other bike out there. And keep the res. switch on the handlebar, good design.
I can go on and on about other things, but I hit the highlights in my mind. I have had a Max for 18yrs. now and am very passionate about this particular design. I don’t want to see it screwed up like so many other “new designs” in the auto business.
And can you please DO IT already, and quit dragging your feet? I’m not getting any younger over here. I’ve been patient, now hurry the hell up!
Leppard
Stingray says
listen to what is being said here, take a mote from the auto makers GTO vs Mustang (new look) ford did a much bettr job holding true to the image. Now look what GM is doing with the new Camero and Chrysler with the new challenger, think what you are getting ready to do here, you owe this bike much more then just a copy of a crochrocket.
Thomas Lewis says
Yamaha has one of the best ABS systems available for motorcycles,hopefully they will make it available on the new VMAX,for me personally,that would seal the deal.
Joe Goodwin says
I bought my max (’86) in ’88 while I was in high school. GAWD, what a trip. it was instantly feared by all that heard the rumble, and saw the horrific smokey tired launches. It was then and still should be, above all else, awe inspiring. Let us not forget the first time we pulled up at a local hang out, and watched everyone watching us, and the beast upon which we rode. Remember the football player type with the new Honda Hurricane? I do, he almost choked on an onion ring…..couldn’t get over the wicked sound and the tire eating acceleration……I WANT THAT AGAIN….200-250 Brake specific horse power, 145-175 lbs-ft of torque….bad boy, hooligan looks, bad @$$ looks and attitude. We owe the legend another shot at greatness, and Yamaha owes the tired soul of a warrior a bold new body, so we can go kick some crotchrocket butt
slip says
200 fuel injected H.P. minimum, larger fuel tank, huge back tire but I still like the maintanence savings of shaft drive. a real honest and fully adjustable suspension. ( a single sided swing arm with a integrated shaftdrive? mmm!) Build it and they will come.
Oh and I’ll take mine in the most nasty black you can come up with.
James says
#1 its NOT a crotch rocket, remember that!
#2 Its a lean mean take no prisoners machine, Must only get MEANER
#3 Its got the Muscular look, it must stay STRONG and DISTINCTIVE
#4 Is there really a need to say more?
( 88′ 92′ 03′ Vmax’s) love’m it or get spanked by them , it’s your call
J.Rotten says
my first vmax was in 92 today i bought an 06 the only thing i wish they would change is carb to fuel injection with the crappy gas around these days i worry
t1n0m3n says
Handling? What do you need that for? Brakes? Are for wussies.
Two wheels, a freaking huge engine, and OVER THE TOP straight line acceleration. Make this thing nasty. I don’t care if it is 700#, just make the 1/4 times unbeatable by ANY other current production bike.
Steve says
I bought my V-max the very first year that they were in production, and I sold it 4 years later when I got married. I have wanted to get another one ever since, but I am waiting to see the new design.
The latest pictures depict a design that seems to be pulling away from the badboy cruiser look that the current VMax has. I would like to see the new Vmax maintain a unique, American Hot rod cruiser look. I like the new scoops and I think they should stay. A few suggestions I have are as follows;
Maintain the same V8-like sound – This is a MUST!! This bike cannot sound like any other V4.
Increase the HP and torque to get the Vmax back to the top of the charts for acceleration. This baby should lose nothing to the Busa or the ZX14 as far as accelaration goes!!
Although I would prefer chain drive, I could go either way with this
Keep the scoops but make them functional
Make the airbox cover a little wider for a beefier appearance between the scoops
Get away from the carbs in favor of fuel injection – This will allow custom mapping when aftermarket goodies are added
Beefier front end with more rake
Better overall suspension with a more rigid frame for better handling (all aluminum like the Warrior??)
Top notch brakes
Wider rear tire (200mm)
Bring the footpegs front a little bit. Closer to the position of the Roadstar Warrior. This will put you in a more lean and mean cruising position
Get away from the matt black look in favor of Polished wheels, plenty of chrome and a few awesome paint schemes to choose from. For those that like the black, offer a midnight version but offer an alternative for those of us that like our flashy paint and chrome : )
Frank says
If only they would get on with the show. Yamaha where are you? Keep the same looks as now but 200 horsepower + with better brakes and handling.
Why try to fix it if it ain’t broke? A 200 plus horsepower shaft driven straight line monster VMAX is what America needs now!
I am tired of waiting for Yamaha to get off the can. And now I am hearing it will be October, 2008 before the new VMAX arrives. Give me a break!
pitbull says
if you build it, we will buy!
If you build it, WE WILL BUY!
IF YOU BUILD IT WE WILL BUY!
B U I L D I T !
reid brothers says
i think the guys at yamaha should get real!!. all performance comes from yamaha motor co, not star motorcycle !!. you guys should listen to the public, not some stupid insecure idiot that is afraid to say YAMAHA in public. if you dont want a legendary motorcycle like the vmax to say its from yamaha then i guess star motorcycles are for harley wan-a-bees that feel they cant afored the real deal. i also own 2006 vmx1200,and smoke stars for breakfast
Eric says
make the scoops a little leaner, like the originals, one big hole…not the two small ones…although I like the machine gun port look of direct front view. Definitely a passenger seat, shaft drive, 200 RWHP. Integrate the scoops better, they look like an afterthought…more traditional pipes, with the concept ones as an option. Definitely keep the badass, muscular rear view.
V-4 DOMINATOR says
The answer is rather simple,,, make the bike with modern suspension and brakes !!! , I refuse to ride a bike that is over 500 pounds,,, put this bike on a diet and loose 50 to 100 pounds !!! Put some real tires on this thing (200) minimum rear… And beef up the POWER !!! with another 30 to 40 H.P. The new bike must captivate the motorcycle world if it is going to be a success !!! You have to do something because MR. MAX is getting pretty OLD and Stiff.
Ray '95 Max says
As the owner of an 80K mile Max I suggest build on an engine that has outperformed any late or new commer mill. The Max engine has given me and most other guys, years of good power and awsome reliability. It is a brick wall design that does not need much tinkering with. I suggest the following mods suitible for production: Wider pistons can be easily installed because the cylinders have plenty of meat on them before you have to sleeve. No replacement for displacement!!! Craft a sprocket to the output shaft witch would give more power to the rear tire by using chain drive. This intern would reduce weight a great deal. Give the Max lightweight wheels to further reduce weight and help the handling as well. Top notch suspension front and back with upside down forks and a good rear setup. If a 730lb. suzuki M109 has one so can a Max. Finally the use of EFI is a no brainer. From factory, you can starve the bike for emissions but once it hits the garage of a thrilled owner all bets are off. Dynojet and aftermarket exhaust comps. would have a feild day!!! I CAN’T WAIT YAMAHA!!!
David Gibson says
I own a 2001, since it was new. I like riding it, and have kept it stock. The changes I think need addressing, is radial tires larger ones, the right size front forks, more stability, and comfortable stock seat for long rides, and better more advanced lighting. I think the problem with fuel injection on the vmax, is no v-boost. If the power with fuel injection can be there, then eliminate the v-boost for fuel economy. I must say though, that mine gets 35 mpg with four carbs, so I’m not complaining. A six speed trany would be nice, like the concours which reaches out there in the triple digits at what seems to be an idle compared to vmax. The new 2008 kawasaki concours 14 is going to be a stiff rival, for sales,and that is what pays for the upgrades to motorcycles. It is more sport touring, for those like me that want a bike that corners, rides comfy, and leaves the crotch rockets in the dust. Nothing like the respect you get at the stop light, when they know your machine would leave them at the starting gate like turtles. Also triumph 3 is a huge powerful looking bike, but I hear its heavy. Be careful, we know those insurance companies were all over yamaha for coming out with the VMAX, because of so many deaths. So, we will have to understand some design reasoning.
vmaxpatc says
dont change to a chain drive,up the power to 200bph,keep d v boost.you dont know what a buzz is until you have hit 6000rpm,scared d shit when i tried it first.more fule capacity please
JOn says
I own a 94 max modified. I like the look on the front but the rear is looking too sport-bikish. Yamaha has a bike for the sportbike crowd.. and they also have a sport tourer FZ1. Both are awesome bikes why compete with them. Go with the chaindrive, 200 rear, USD forks, Good brakes, comforatble seating front and REAR, definently some kinda extra BOOST like supercharger so you can use the scoops, bigger gas tank for more mileage, top it with an awesome looking digital tach/speedo….. If you cant beat the customized Vmaxs’ now built or at least stay up with them in the quarter mile then you got a problem. and those bike mine included put out 130-170 Hp 100Ft. Go big or go home. IMHO
carlos says
que tal yo tengo mi vmax 1992, en perfectas condiciones, he queria cambiar por una 2005, para mi el nuevo diseño vmax tiene que dar nuevamente un aspecto devastador a todas sus competencias, demostrar nuevamente el poder de una vmax y apariencia agrasiva. un 1800cc seria formidable con suspencion de horquilla invertida y frenos muy superiores es tdodo lo que necesito!! me urge saber cuanto custa y cuando podre comprar mi nuevo monstruo!!!
cs mumford says
200 h.p., pull the tail down. looks too much like a dirt bike. put an inverted fork on it. put progressive suspension and z1 rated tires on it…ill buy it
Kwak12r says
I’m a Kwak owner (boo!) who has been waiting for this bikie to make an appearance for far too long. I’m used to big horsepower bikes, and am finally getting bored of high top speeds. I’m far more interested in accelleration these days, and the new Max looks like just the bike I’m after. That only leaves two problems –
1) When is it cue?
2) What are you aiming for it to do?
On the Next VMax site, the suggestion is that we should all feel involved in the evolution of this new machine, but I’m fast starting to wonder whether Yamaha are going to bother with it at all! God forbid they palm us off with another namesake scooter…!
So, Mr Yamaha, if you’re listening, how’s about an update????
Salut,
Kwak12r
turbo-al says
the new max must be the next standard for many years to come. must have updated handling all the improvements we hope for in a leader and of course the HORSE POWER MUST BE THERE TOO not a little more but a major one. i loved my 89 max. but what i see in this new bike looks like the one. it takes a lot for me too get excited in all this cookie cutter world of one after another. it looks like yamaha is about to do it again and have another landmark bike for the 21st century. it WILL BE THE NEW LEADER in HP for along time to come take my money now i want ONBOARD !!!!! long live the new vmax
Myles(elimn8r87) says
Yamaha, are you taking notes?Don’t try to be all things to all riders!Build a line of factory drag accessories like extended swingarms, special cams, big bore kits, wheelie bars, that sort of thing. Maybe if the supercharger is too radical for the standard machine, offer it as a factory speed part.Push the envelope. The Vmax was crazy when it first came out and lasted a long time, be crazy again. Cosmetic updates will disappoint everyone unless the machine means business, don’t ruin a great name. The new Vmax MUST be BAD, with power that will be on par with a Busa or ZX14. If it isn’t a quartwer mile king again it will be a flacid attempt at supporting a legendary name.Why not make it a 225hp & 2000cc+ & 250+ rear tire, with a Corbin created seat, a SPA designed gauges…with their 1/4 mile time options and changing color readable tach.- Make it mean
– Make it powerful
– Make it fast
– Make it look really bad
– Give it a great sound
– Give it a terminator look. The bike needs to have a real bad boy image !
Please hurry I WANT ONE NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Austin says
If a v-max was able to be ordered as per the prototype I’d place an order right now. I’ve had alot of bike mostly Harleys but the V-max(mines a 97) is the pick keep doing what ya doing that looks awesome make sure it has unreal grunt supercharged prefered, make the frame so it dosn’t tweak as much when your cornering at high speed. Love the new look
Give it Hell Guys!!!!!!!!
David Parkin says
Ask yourself what the vmax was? Good looking, have you seen the new bike? Strike one. The vmax was not a posser nor did it perform, and look like it was. Strike two. I could go on all day. If Yamaha wants to create this stupid bike. All I ask is, is’t not a vmax, don’t call it one!
Michael says
Too late Yamaha!
The people who were waiting for the new V-Max and would have spent all their money on it in their twenties … they are approaching the forties now. They are going for a Harley. And this includes me and a bunch of friends, obviously.
V-Max times are over. Today you have radar guns behind every bush, you got pollution laws, noise laws … and you got mass-produced 500 HP cars to laugh at you near 200mph.
Yamaha, you where waiting too long. You missed it. Bye!
Jes says
Its never to late if a bike has the same effect as V Max had when it first came out. I ve still got one and still going flat out from the lights and still want more power, A supercharger is a must and a fatter back tyre , all i want from the new V Max is for Satan to draw up along side at the lights and think ? i,ll give it a miss today , also i would like to have the capability of chaining it up to any other road production bike and tearing their back end off, if it does this Yamaha can have the money up front.
SportyGuy says
Well like Michael I too am frustrated at the wait, typical Americans…we want it and want it now. Good things do come to those who wait though.
Also…where are all these police with radar guns, get out of the city for a day or two.
And…where are all these 5oo HP massed produced cars, for less than 60K anyways.
Plus…I might bet the new Star Vmax might have less exhaust emmissions than a new HD.
Finally….nobody, not even Michael, can make a statement about who the typical Vmax rider is, what they buy, and what we want, as he/or she is far from typical…far from being described in one paragraph.
If they build it, and this seems the case, they will come. I’ll lay my pink slip on the line with any 500 HP car in the quarter if the bike is what it should be…king of the road. And HD’s , my ’82 Honda 450 stock bike still beats most of them up to 80 MPH.
Janek says
When v-max was introduced to the market i was eighteen, but a bike, especially THAt BIKE was out of sight, beacause i was born on wrong side of iron curtain…
Now I’m ready to buy it, after V-star (my first) and R1200C (my second).
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So – Yamaha! let me buy IT
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PS: no matter with shaft or chain drive ;~)
Rob says
I agree with all comments above. My 2002 Max commands respect everywhere I go. Everytime I go somewhere I often here, “Ah Mr. Max, What a bike.” The new bike needs to have more power than any other motorcycle ever produced, 190 minimum. Yamaha has a chance to turn the motorcycling world on its ear again. When potential buyers look at the new V Max, it should scare the crap out of them and put a smile on their face at the same time. Those who know how to handle a bike will buy. They also need to stop screwing around an get it to market. The BKing from Suzuki looks promising.
RonnRamm says
I have enough from the SuzyQ camp and the M109
I have heard enogh about the ZX14 handing out azz whoopings.
I even heard about the big cruisers smacking the VMAX around.
ENOUGH is ENOUGH
I want the quarter Mile Crown back where it belongs.
200BHP and a 200 rear tire to leave it’s mark on the ground to let the others know that the King is back and handing out cans of whoopass.
The air ride suspension would be nice for dual purpose riding, but do no add that to forsake the raw power. Give us back the beast that stomped a mudhole in all challengers and would do a hellacious burnout to make it dry. Come on Yamaha don’t let politics put the V-Max in an old folks home. Release the beast and I don’t give a damn if that is not AllState stand.
Bob says
Just heard that release is set for fall 2007, so I guess I’ll hold off buying the B-King, ZX14 or the Concours14 until I see the new VMaximus in person.
The preceding sentence is what Yamaha wants to hear…from thousands of us VMax owners…since we are all ready to toss down money on some new toys!
So….OK Yamaha, I am waiting. You have until Xmas 2007 to ‘Go Big or Go Home’. It better be a contender for the 1/4 mile since that is what brought it to the dance. If not I’ll pass… at least until the aftermarket makes it so.
Ken says
Where did this due date come from Bob?
Bob says
Ken,
This is where I saw the 2008 release info….not exactly straight from Yamaha.
http://www.raptorsandrockets.com/News/Yamaha_Vmax.htm
steve says
Let the style swing both ways as it has already progressed with the moody all black version or the cromey cruiser styles available. Also make engine bigger and have a super charged & non-supercharged model.
Nice to blow away your mates with sports bikes in a straight line and look cool parking up with your cruiser bike buddies. The accesories should lend themselves to taking the look in both directions.
It should not try to out handle a sports bike but still be better than any other cruiser in the bends. Most people bought the bike for the acceleration in a straight line so this should be the focus “Quarter Mile King” is back. The scoops are a signature item but should do as they suggest & work with super charger.
Better Brakes, front forks, alloy frame, single swing arm perhaps, prefer shaft over chain for cleanliness & maintenance. I liked the under seat fuel tank for individuality but thought a few extra gallons capacity would not go a miss. Twin headlamps one on top of other type style as opposed to left & right. Fuel injected with possibly an all new touring & sports mode setting that either gives you more economical cruiser broad power spread or outright animal power.
Bullet proof engine & affordability were factors that also encouraged my purchase. What I have always loved about the Max is just how instant & usuable that acceleration is, I mean being so heavy & long you can crack open the throttle & enjoy without too many air born drama’s.
Truimphs new rocket is the only other bike so far in 20yrs to get me fired up but I am a fan of Yamaha from way back & love to this company break new ground on features & design. Its probably the addiction to two strokes in my youth that helped me appreciate the boost.
The new bike has to look as good or better than the old girl and leave it in the dust for performance 200bhp/225bhp. Top speed & handling secondary to acceleration.
Ralph says
If Christmas, 07 is when the new VMAX arrives, I hope Santa doesn’t fall head first down the chimney. If the new VMAX doesn’t blow all the soot out of the chimney there are going to be a lot of very dissapointed people.
Vinny says
I am a proud owner of a 2005 V Max. The V Max is about brute power and unique styling. V Max buyers don’t want a big v-twin that vibrates and leaks oil. They don’t want a crotch rocket that gives me back aches just looking at one. I’m just trying how to figure out how to keep my 05 and purchase the new V Max. Rest assured, It’s gonna happen. I’m looking foward to blowing off the tires of some generation xyz’ers on their hunchmobiles. Yamaha, this is long over due. Don’t let us down. You build it, and they will come!
steven says
Well iam only just 18 and live in australia so i was not around when the first V-max came out. I have been riding all my life and own an RGV250, iam looking for a larger bike as i was only able to have a 250cc in australia. I was going to go to an R1 as all my mates own sports bike but my old man said u should look at a V-max. i new of the name as i have herd people talk about there looks and performance. It was not till i walked up to a bike shop with a few Vmax’s for sale and saw one first hand for the first time as we dont have too many ova here. I fell in love with the looks and sound stright away. I could not get over how dam sexy it was. I had to bring my mates back to show it off (keep in mind they all ride R1’s and GSX-R1000 ) and they said stright away how mean the thing looked. Anyway they all took it for a test ride and came back wif a big smile on the face. they said it was a bit hard to turn a connor but in a stright line from 60kph it pulled very hard. so i bought it and always go out riding wif my mates and everywhere we pull up people walk stright past my mates sportsbikes and stright up to the vmax to talk to me and ask me what the hell it is, i park it somewhere and i have came back and seen people just walking around it having a look.
So Yamaha….. U guys have a job on your hand as the V-max still catches the eyes of young and old peolpe it just dose not have the ablity to perform with the latest of bikes. iam a motocycle mechanic apprentice and know just how easy it would be for u guy to pull 200+ Hp from a 1500cc V4 V-max motor. Keep the looks and increase power, better front brakes and u guys should have something that will sell. Keep in mind the old style is very sexy and mean and even random girls say how nice the bike looks, oh and that thing u guys made as a concept should never wear the V-max name, its a real disapointment and looks like a something that would fly to the moon and not somethig that looks like an old style musclebike that would leave anything behind at the drop of the green light and leave a long black tyre mark for a good 30m
I just hope u guys make one quick cuz the zx14r and b-king is going to take all the people who just cant wait any longer. I know all my mates and myself are saving up to buy one hoping its able to kill anything off the line. Good luck Yamaha and dont let the Vmax name down
Denny James says
Hold on! Yea, I’ve ridden alcohol-methane and NO2 V-Maxes – but blowing the engine and keeping a local shop in business rebuilding my bike isn’t my idea of “Get- up and Swing-leg Drag fun!” Let’s think outside of the box Boys!! Honda sold allot of the wide “Seething-Sixes” and the riders didn’t seem to mind the engine width. Why not increase the V-4 to a V-6 and get rid of the shaft? Simple. Then add the supercharger and toys on top of that if you need a higher hair-line?!! I believe the down-line cost effectiveness would allow a “light to light” V-Max that would legitimately push 8 sec. quarter mile times fully loaded. The design would allow most riders an uncompromised rush for under $20k and be on the tail of the Harley “Destroyer” straight out of the box. For another $2k’s worth of potential factory upgrades the “Destroyer” would be just another flash-in-the pan quickie-bike to be completely Dominated by the Legendary V-Max Legacy!!!
john waite says
Ive owned three maxes in the past ten years…i even went for a hayabusa a few years back but chopped it in for a new 06 v-max..coz well,basicly its the most fun you can have on two wheels. The v-max is the essence of what a motorbike should be…its loud,its mean looking, its dangerous, its scarily fast…and for the new one to succeed it has to be all these things. If it doesent scare the living fudge out of you and passers by then keep it! i agree the handlings a bit challenging but you dont buy one for the handling..its the thrill off speed…i think the shaft drive should stay..it works..plus 190+ plus bhp would eat chains and sprockets…a big rear tyre is a must..if your reading this yamaha..I WANT TO FEAR FOR MY LIFE WHEN I RIDE THIS BIKE…GET NASTY!!
PARKER1 says
I HAVE OWNED 4 MAX IN THE LAST 15 YEARS.I”VE RIDDEN CROSS COUNTRY 5 TIMES ON THEM,DRAG RACED THEM RELENTLESSLY AND WORKED ON THEM AS I HAVE BEEN A POWERSPORTS SERVICE MANAGER FOR 15 YEARS.
I HAD SPECIALIZED IN PERFORMANCE WORK FOR V-MAX AS WELL AS ROUTINE SERVICES ON THEM AND AS WELL AS ALL OTHER MAKES AND MODELS.I WAS INFATUATED WITH THE V-MAX SINCE DAY 1 AND HAVE COUNTLESS HRS INVESTED IN THEM FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND A FEW FROM EUROPE.ITS ALWAYS THE SAME THING WITH V-MAX OWNERS.
THEY WANT WAY MORE RWHP.THE WANT THE SMALL BLOCK CHEVY SOUND.
THE BIGGEST ISSUE WITH MAKING THE MAX QUICKER WAS THE FACT YOU COULD NOT CHANGE GEAR RATIOS EASILY DUE TO SHAFT DRIVE.THE CHEAPEST CHAIN CONVERSION KIT THAT WAS WORTHY WAS 2200.00.WHAT A HIT AND PAIN TO INSTALL.CHAIN DRIVE CAN BE DONE AND DONE RIGHT RIGHT FROM FACTORY.IVE DRIVEN 500HP BIKE WITH CHAIN WITHOUT A PROBLEM.THE MAX DOES NEED TO BE ABLE TO SLOW THE PARTY DOWN WHEN NEEDED.HEADSHAKE HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE WITH THE MAX SINCE 85.MAX OWNERS ARE NOT AFRAID TO FORCE IT WHEN REQUIRED TO TURN FAST,IF U MAKE IT QUICK ENOUGH,WE WILL SPANK ROCKETS DOWN THE STRAIGHTS AND GET OFF AND PUSH AROUND A TURN IF WE HAVE TO.
MAKE IT EXTREMELY QUICK.MAKE IT STOP WITH AUTHORITY.GIVE THE SOUND OF A PRO-MOD.MAKE 1 IN BLACK.TO HELL WITH FUEL ECONOMY.GIVE IT CHAIN DRIVE OR A DRAG PACK REAR END GEAR AVAILIBLE.FUEL INJECTION IS A MUST OR IT WILL NOT SALE.NEED TO KEEP IT COSMETICALLY V-MAX,RESEMBLING THE OLD BUT UPDATED.LIGHTEN IT UP AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WITH OUT DESTROYING THE INTEGRITY OF THE UNIT.NOBODY WILL CARE ABOUT V BOOST IF IT YANKS YOUR ARMS OUT OF THE SOCKETS,THEY WILL BE TO BUSY TRYING TO CLEAR THE BREATH FOG FROM THEIR HELMET SHIELD.ZX14 IS THE BIKE TO BEAT BY FAR AS OF RIGHT NOW.UNIT ALSO NEED A HIGH RATIO TOP GEAR FOR CRUIZING FAST.
LOW PROFILE TIRES WOULD BE NICE 200+REAR AND A SWING ARM WITH ENOUGH ROOM FOR A LITTLE MORE IF WANTED.DO IT RIGHT YAMAHA.SOME OF US HAVE EARNED IT AND DESERVE IT.
Bob says
New VMax will need to beat the ZX14’s mid to high 9 second quarter mile times to have any chance at big US sales in my opinion. I am not sure the Japanese understand the significance of the 1/4 mile in American motoring culture.
The VMax body style may prohibit the new VMax from beating the ZX14, or the new more powerful Haya’seeya’, in the quarter mile. But, to me, doing a speed of 150 or 160 on a naked bike in the quarter mile would be fun and exciting…like the old Max was in it’s day.
I will wait and see if the new Star VMax is again the fastest horse at the track…if not…I’ll probably buy whatever is the current quarter mile champ next year…
but I’ll keep my present ’06 VMax for old times sake.
FRANK says
OH NO!!! WE cant build a 200hp V-MAX ,It will be too fast,too dangerous,insurance will be to high,—–WHATEVER!!!!! Bike company’s stopped that nonesense 20 years ago. Look> it doesnt even have to be 200hp! Just give this badass,look at me,firebreathin,brute,new technology like fuel injection,160plus hp,and o yeah,why does everyone say so what about the front end shakes,FIX IT,U KNOW U CAN, inverted front end and damp if need be. This would rule the market,JUST LOOK AT IT! IT RULED AS IT WAS AND LASTED FOR 20 YEARS,JUST THINK HOW LONG IT WOULD LAST WITH WHAT IT COULD BE! OH YEAH!! Build two versions> SPORT,WITH SHAFT, And one with chain. YOU WONT BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE ORDERS> TAKE IT TO EM YAMAHA!!! GETTING COLD SWEATS JUST THINKING ABOUT IT> FRANK VITALE! SAINT LOUIS MO.200hp> WAY COOL
MIKE OLIVER says
WHEN I PULLED UP TO A QUICK STOP NEXT TO A BUNCH OF HARLEY RIDERS IN THE LATE 80S AND THEY JUST STOPPED TALKING AND SHOOK THEIR HEADS AND THEN MY HAND FOR HAVING THE BALLS TO RIDE SUCH A MONSTER I NEW I HAD PURCHASED THE RIGHT MACHINE. FOR 20 YEARS EVERY TIME I TOOK IT OUT IT REMINDED ME OF THAT DAY.200 HP,200 REAR TIRE,FUEL INJ.(FOR RE MAPPING) AND REAL SCOOPS.
I’M WAITING , HURRY UP!
TR Golden says
Most of what I had to say has been said. 2 things made the VMax; looks and POWER. I fell in love 1st time I saw it, not knowing anything about the power. I have had the first year (85) since 86 and haven’t had, didn’t want, any other bike until this new VMax. As mentioned already: it has to be unique, FAST and handle. I personally like the shaft, no problems, no mess. When I go any where other bikes are, I want them to know, like they did in 85, that this bike means business, don’t try or I’ll oblige. I went to my local Yamaha Dealer to find out how I could be put on the list of buyer’s and they said there was no list. So I put down $250 and the first one in is mine; I don’t care about the price unless it exceeds $16,000. I’m going to Deal’s Gap in September, but my next trip (May of 08) I better be on the NEW VMax.
Keep Praying.
John Sarkis says
I will keep this short. I agree with all above, you all have coverd 97% of what I would have said. Yamaha V MAX is the only bike on the road that makes my blood pump, from the way it looks to the power it explodes on to the road!
Love the new concept V MAX for 08, now thats a what a V MAX needs to look like… BAD.
P.S. lets try to keep it under 20,000.00
I said “try”
Mr. V-Max says
I’m thinking about a 17 or 1800cc v4 with a supercharger that’s cranking out about 275 rear wheel HP. When you’ve think you’ve wrung all the HP out of the bike you can, wring some more.
The Max has to be badder than the new B-King with the Hayabusa engine, it must leave the B-King in the dust……………..IT MUST LEAVE THE B-KING IN THE DUST! *shakes fist in air*
Mr. V-Max says
Oh, nevermind, I just saw a pic of it on a website, IT’S HIDIOUS! I’ll be getting the B-King.
Cyclemenace says
The Vmax is a legend. Keep it that way.
-Highest horsepower on the market.
-EFI
-Rear seat and rear fender that are DIFFERENT from the concept picture.
-Better suspension.
-6 gears.
-Useable tach.
-Functionable air intakes.
-Flat black/brushed aluminum. (Chrome is for Harley chromosexuals)
-Evil sound.
I’ll buy one.
Cyclemenace says
Left one out: MASSIVE BRAKES!
PARRISH says
I’d like to see all the exciting new features with the exception of the back fender. Maybe you should make other interchangable parts, for instance the crotch rocket rear fender… Let’s give us some options and KEEP the cruiser LOOK…After all I’m not a weekend warrior, I’m road over 275 k miles on the back of my MAXINE, YA BABY. Oh and yes I own more than 1 v-max,vmx1200, etc, etc, etc…LARGER TANK for FUEL, a real GAS GUAGE, a brighter BRAKE LIGHT, FORWORD CONTROL and keep the foot rests for long distance comfort…..IF YOU WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT IS NEEDED FOR THE NEXT V-MAX. The byke should be road, in all types of conditions… I WOULD LOVE TO PUT YOUR NEW BYKE TO THE TEST…PARRISH
Ralph ROV says
Yamaha…..
Please not to much plastic and faggy carbon, not on a 200bhp-plus bike, get real.
Brushed aluminum!
Look at latest fighterjets for design ideas,or the Lamborgini Miura or stuff like that.
Streamline that oil cooler! Design a bellypan with integrated cooler or sumtin’.
Straiter lines, staiter even more agressive.
Driver position more forward, footsteps more back.
Dont do it to sleek, the image of the VMAX is raw.
Come on guys, snap out of that manga shi*.;-)
Can’t wait to ride it!
cheers.
Jimmy says
I’ve always been into muscle cars, when I first saw a 1985 V-Max I had to have one. I ended up buying a new 1986 V-Max and installed a Kerker 4 into 2 into 1 exhaust with a Dyno Jet Stage VII jet kit. The bike sounded like no other, more like a street rod. The sound of it would put a smile on your face. This was my first bike, I sold it after sixteen years.
Four years later I was looking for a new bike and considered getting a 2006 V-Max. I had the extra funds and planned on doing an all out custom; intake, exhaust, heads, cam, big bore kit, wide tire kit, possibly adding a super charger, and additional chrome. Then when I saw the new 2006 I changed my mind. I don’t care for the blacked out look especially the flat black engine, so I ended up buying a Harley.
I think Yamaha should build a V-Max just like they did in the beginning. “A one of a kind muscle bike”. A bigger engine with more neck snapping torque and horsepower then any other bike, show bike looks (chrome & gloss paint), wider beefier front forks raked out a bit, lower suspension, and a wider rear tire. Just keep the basic look of the original.
I saw the future concept V-Max…..There’s already too many sport bikes out there………..
Steve says
I will never forget the first time I saw MAX.
I was gassing up my 1980 750 SECA and heard this
sound I had never heard before. As I turned to see
the intersection there he was stopped at the redlight. With my mouth hanging open, I thought
what the hell is that! Just then the light changed
and there was that sound again. Rear tire engulfed
in smoke, front tire about 6″ in the air. And like a bullet gone! The rest is history.
We all would like a BBM (BIGGER, BADDER MAX)!!!!!!
john doran ny says
i just want to say that the vmax is a bike that should always be respected.it was my first and only bike.the vmax was always known as a straight line bike with lots of power that could not be matched.i loved this bike since the day i seen one and i consider myself very lucky to now have my own 93.i knew when i was buying my max that it had a lot of handling issues but i still bought it and i have no regrets.the first time i hit vboost was when i started to live.i feel that the number one concern to yamaha should be more power.i dont mean to be rude to the other people who wrote in their thoughts but we learned to live with the old max for 20years and we sacrificed handling for what we knew the vmax was all about which was kick ass power not to be matched.we all put our big wheels and pipes and change the suspension anyway and we get the bike to handle a bit better.in 1985 yamaha unleashed a monster but i am sorry to say that this monster is getting a bit too tame.yamaha please give me a bike that is a straight line lunatic once again 200+RWHP and make the vmax the monster that it wants to be again.im sorry guys but if yamaha keep trying to create a vmax that handles like an r1 its never going to be built.the only thing i want is a faster max with a 6 gear 190+mph,and leave us all some room for a big tyre if we want it.im sorry if i offended anybody but i just think we need mr max to be built already because there is a lot of us devoted riders looseing to mr busa and mr z14.max needs to regain his throne at the top before his legend dies and we all start riding busas.please do not dissapoint me yamaha i cant wait much longer.
Chip Adams says
It’s about time! I only hope it’s not too late! In order of importance…
1. Regain 1/4 mile title… whatever it takes. 1/4 mile speed, screw top end. Who goes 200 mph and lives to tell about on the street???!
2. 20 years old and going for a reason. Retain the current vmax look, it is a timeless design. New vmax is doing that somewhat—loose the “ducati” style seat and fender and keep rear seat for eye candy!
3. Mean, HELL and back, muscle-car look, with sound and power to back it
4. wider rear wheel
5. more fuel capacity
6. functional scoops!
7. Affordable… under $15g
8. Keep shaft drive. With modern technology can keep the maintenence free shaft and still get a fatty under rear fender.
9. No super charger. Maybe as a factory add-on. Must keep affordable
10. Use original engine design. It’s a proven bulletproof tested engine. Just make it bigger and add any technological advances that help it. That would help with cost.
11. Yamaha, you can’t please everyone, but this can be a huge success if done right! Just hurry!
Glenn Bearss says
Hi,from Canada.I agree with Chip,give us a 1/4 Mile King again.Straight line ,brute acceleration,muscle bike “I want that” looks,that the original has.If I want to carve corners,I can ride my son’s R-1 or my wife’s Radian.I own a 85 that’s a keeper,but would trade my 02 if they get it right.Yamaha please do this right,and we will all buy another “VMAX”.My only addition to all the other idea’s,HOLD YOUR BREATH,an “AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION.I’ll never miss a shift again.MAXGZ.
thomas lewis says
injection,ABS,lets bring the foot controls foward,less knee bend for comfort and cruising.Bring the weight down and a large fuel tank.keep the v4 or v5.the best radial tires and light weight rims.power and good cruise economy.
mike says
all this hype and no bike. i won’t wait for it anymore. it would be funny by the time yamaha comes out with the v max there will be another bike better and faster than it.
the v max is great just upgrade the swing arm and skinny forks and the engine i’m sure could be tweak to give it more then 140 hp without redesigning a newer one. who knows what yamaha has planned.
i just don’t like waiting so long and no bike. forget it; buy something else.
VMan1200 says
Pretty exciting looking bike they are running out, clearly it needs more power and to get those 120 mph wobbles out, but functional scoops with ram air intake and seating for two should be serious priorities. My wife asked me for a “bigger bike” after riding our 98 Max for a few years. I said – bigger bike…? The old V-Max is a pretty big bike, 1200 v4, wheel stander, etc, etc, etc… Then I told her to start riding more, and we could talk. So a few longer rides last year forced my hand. We were scheduled for a trip to the Smokey Mountains, Tail of the Dragon and Deal’s Gap from central IL…. What to do? Some under powered Yamaharley? Some really under powered Harley? Ugh!! What a miserable bunch of options to consider. Then I found it. Some guy pulled up to fuel up one day at a station I was at. The sound isn’t the same, but it is sweet. He was riding a 2000 Valkyrie Tour, black with a great flame job on it, and 6 into 6 pipes. Now, I am on a Valk tour, and it’s SA-WEET! Little big, and a little heavy to start off, but once you are rolling, the thing feels and handles as well or better than my V-Max. Mine is loaded, and with some goodies, making about 120 hp currently. Not the same as the old v4, but for a big bike, it hauls the mail. I dusted a V-Rod this fall that kept taunting me, and he was VERY surprised to be hearing the howl of my 6 into 2 side pipes… She will wheel stand with a passenger too! 🙂 So, if you can have two, or need an open road rider, I say to you all, check out a Valk, it has similar characteristics, power, unique engine appearance and some serious comfort. We ride 8 or 10 hours and the folks on the Ultras are tired and sore. Not on the Phat Lady….
mike says
upgrade the forks and swing arm to improve handling, increase gas tank capacity for touring possibilities. as for the engine gosh the thing is still fast. upgrade the current engine; make it efficient and even more reliable and possibly improve the v boost. horsepower shouldn’t be 200+. that’s crazy. that’s all folks!
Richard says
My Last Bike was a 71 Kaw 900. But I Have fallen in Love with the Big V! I think Yamaha, or V Star, Whoever does production of the New V Should have 2 Models. 1 for the Stiff Suits AKA/ Safty Standard. No 2 Take a Hint from Boss Hoss and Make Sure That The BAD-A Version has Restrictions Like No 1 Under 25 Could Buy, or maybe go by how much ridding time they have >How many years they Have Had Motorcycle licence. Bet This Yamaha if Ya Water it Down YOU will Lose Loyals, and Newcommers as Well ! KickitWicked and Ride Safe !
Will B. says
I agree with alot of the previous comments on more horse power and better handling in cornering,
and the need for a passanger seat but I would also like to see the bike made bigger, able to fit a 200-240lb and up to 6’3 ht. rider.
jim says
i own an ’01 vmax. i agree with michaels’ comments above. it’s a fun bike. but it ‘s like driving an nhra funny car! i pass everything but the gas pump! having seen the ’09 vmax i am disappointed in the overall design–the weight, the styling. omg–it’s so fugly. oh why couldn’t yamaha have studied the ktm 990 super duke-that’s a beautiful well mannered standard! not to tall, very flicable in/out of the twisties, good brakes, & not top heavy. the ktm is what a standard should be in this day an age. now if yamaha had put the vmax motor in the ktm super duke, omg,omg. they would have trouble meeting the demand from the public. as it is, i will take a pass on the ’09 vmax.
Donald says
I will take a pass on the new V-Max.
I have the 1998 V-Max and alot of what is being mentioned on here can be done to all the current V-Max bikes out there. The fake intakes can be made real, the engine can be bored out the seat height can be lowered, better front end can be installed, super charge and turbo charge kits are out there. Chain coversion kits that are easier to install as well as kits for a wider rear tire are all out there. So rather then shell out such a large amount for the new V-Max, I will keep my 98 V-Max and keep up-grading it. The new conversion kits out on the market for older V-max bikes are very well made now and very easy to install compared to earlier versions. My V-Max eats other bikes for lunch and I have no trouble hunting down bikes and passing other them on the mountain roads. The fake tank on the V-Max can also be replaced with an actual tank that looks the same as the fake tank.
Cristian Gustavo González says
Aunque el modelo nuevo ha resultado muy agresivo, yo creo que la nueva V-Max debe tener un aspecto más liviano. HarÃa una versión extra más sport.
Pueden visualizar una silueta de mi visión en:
http://www.cristiangustavogonzalez.4t.com/photo_3.html
Lo siento, pero el diseño completo es propiedad de SOLOMOTO30.com
Solo pueden verla si solicitan su publicación a tal
Atte., diseñador Cristian Gustavo González, Argentina.
Patik says
Well, now its allready out on the market. Sadly unuff.
I would like it to be like this:
V8 4000cc injected 300 hp
Shaftdrive
Steelframe and looks of the old Max, but with the engine as stressed member.
Beefier forks and above all, some effert put in the the suspension up front.
Airdampers in the rear that can be fixed as ridgid for dragrace or at the traffic lights.
Launch-control with antispin and airshift that kicks in next gear at the right rpm.