The recently released Roehr 1250sc can be reserved now for March 2009 delivery and to make it as easy as possible, you can place your order on eBay.
The 180hp Revolution V-Twin powered supercharged sportbike will be CARB, EPA and DOT certified for sale in all 50 states. So if you have a little spot in your garage and you’re looking for a new and exclusive sportbike made in the USA, click through and place your order. Price is $49,995.
Link: Roehr 1250sc for sale – auction over
todd says
Good for them, making it CARB (california) legal. That’s one hurdle the big manufacturers do not often attempt.
-todd
wd515 says
I understand what Roehr is trying to do, and what better way to make a name for yourself than to produce an american made crotch rocket. What I don’t understand is, if you are going to sell a $50,000 bike on ebay with a v-twin engine, shouldn’t you list the full specs of the bike? If it weighs more than a ducati, is that not a factor? In comparing the two, a ducati 1098r weighs 364 lbs vs. 432 lbs for the roehr, both have 180 hp. It would be fun to say i beat you with a cruiser engine, but since these bikes are the same price I have to buy ducati.
hoyt says
true, but one is super-charged.
dear Santa….
coho says
Gotta go with hoyt on this one.
The Ogre says
1250sc v 1098r…
I’d certainly take the Duc over the Roehr we’re I to 1)able to spend that much on a moto and 2) wwas looking into a pure sportbike; Ducati has established service and support – Roehr is a complete unknown.
And 70lbs is a *big* chunk of weight, supercharger or not.
John says
I’d like to have one of each.I’ve ridden two stock VRods and to ride one 200 lbs lighter and with 60 more HP would be awsome.Unless your used to riding GP bikes I doubt anyone on this site would bitch about the 60 lb. weight difference after riding the Roehr.
JR says
Not to mention this is a BEAUTIFUL bike!
_mArROkAin_ says
i own a 07 R1 and a Duc 1098S. having said that i can say that no doubt that the 1098S gives me more pleasure because of the push it gives anda all that, but when i want to ride a bike and make it all feel smooth a perfect i have to choose the in line 4 from the R1. the 1098S is good for cornering and acceleration but the R1 doesnt get far behind from the Duc on that, plus its more smoother and the peak power it gives me its much more rewarding. in conclusion i think that if i had to choose from a Duc or a Roehr… id go for the Duc
Jason says
Nice, but they need to bring costs down to be competitive. I foresee a limited run(Jay Leno’s and collectors)then a slow fade into obscurity. I wish them the best of luck; we need an American made crotch rocket.
Azzy says
Wonder how much cash they could of saved if they told California to go stuff itself.
Hmmmmm… If more companies did that, maybe the laws would change after you couldnt find any bikes or cars to get over there.
sohc says
People are missing the point… you keep comparing performance of the ducati and the roehr.
When you have the kind of money to buy a bike like this money is not an option. The guy who buys one wants something the next guy doesn’t have. The stats on a bike don’t matter other than talking points anyways. Nobody could use the capabilities of either bike on the street. You cant compare the price and performance of this bike and a ducati any more than you can compare a honda.
hoyt says
sohc – aqreed. The guy/gal that can afford a Ducati 1198R already has (or could have) just about any mass produced bike, limited edition or not.
They also are not thinking about price or even accessibility to service. (besides, the Roehr could be serviced by a skilled & trustworthy HD shop)
Where are the Wakans?
The Ogre says
Hoyt – good question.
For that matter, where are the American streetbikes with engines *not* sourced from the cruiser market?
taxman says
i’m anxious for the Fischer Bike to really get off it’s feet and going.
http://www.fischer1.com
for what it is (650cc liquid cooled vtwin) it’s pretty competitive, even with the price. they just need to get some dealerships.
todd says
Azzy, that’s the point. The is a large number of lobbyists that feel Californians (or everyone) should not be driving cars or riding motorcycles and instead be taking public transportation.
I like my freedom to be an individual and go where and when I want on what I want. Too bad it’s illegal to do that.
For me, comparing the V-Rohr… I’d rather have a Guzzi V7. But I say again, Good For Them for making the V-Rohr available.
-todd
wd515 says
Thanks taxman for sharing the fischer bike. Besides buell, does it face any american made competition at that price point?
Jk says
Hey folks, Harley will buy this company if there is an American soul behind it.
sohc says
I don’t think HD can afford to buy anymore debt.
The just picked up MV and already have Buell.
Roehr is definitely in the red right now with as much R&D
they have tied up in this project. I hope the bike finds its niche market.
Surely the high end bikes will fair well in a down economy.
It’s target customer still has money to spend.
B*A*M*F says
Doesn’t Fischer use Hyosung engines?
4Cammer says
“For that matter, where are the American streetbikes with engines *not* sourced from the cruiser market?”
Take a look at the Buell 1125R/CR. Rotax sourced,non-cruiser engine. 146hp or so if I remember correctly.
“I wish them the best of luck; we need an American made crotch rocket.”
See Buell 1125R…..
Nicolas says
thanks Taxman for the link to the Fisher bike, this company should have more (or at least as much) exposure than the unaffordable Roehr. imho.
kneeslider says
I’ve written about the Fischer before but it’s a little slow getting any traction in the market.
Den says
“Wonder how much cash they could of saved if they told California to go stuff itself.
Hmmmmm… If more companies did that, maybe the laws would change after you couldn’t find any bikes or cars to get over there.”
The whole point is that more companies should be trying to fit in with CARB, that way costs will come down and more people will be getting more environmentally friendly vehicles.
This is a good thing.
Mark L. says
As an engineer that has been involved with Roehr Motorcycles since way back when, and being one of a short list of people who have ridden the 1250sc, I can shed some light on some of the issues and questions that have been brought up here.
Service: The engine is internally stock. Serviceable by any HD dealer. Roehr provides ALL documentation needed for service by your local dealer, under warranty from Roehr, no less.
CARB: The bike has satisfactorily completed initial EPA testing, and is doing the EPA mileage testing right now. It has passed everything 100% with absolutely no changes to anything. California ARB is met, and is critical due to the high-end sport bike market there. Final certification is due to be issued at the end of the mileage testing. I think in late January.
Performance: I have not ridden a Ducati 1098 of any version, but I can tell you that is is quite notably quicker and faster than a 2007 GSXR1000, at least up to about 150 mph. (short road/fear factor limited) and at 432 lbs. on a scale with some gas in it, the weight is comparable. I would like to see a Ducati 1098 on the scale as well, as I doubt that it is 60 lbs. lighter in the real world.
HP: This bike actually makes 169 hp and 99 ft. lbs. at the wheel, limited to 8 lbs. of boost. On the mythical crankshaft (engine) dyno, about 184 hp & 113 ft lbs.
That power level is redline/RPM enforced at 9,100 RPM. for the health and well being of the connecting rods. (Warranty issues prevent more boost/power)
This motor with good aftermarket rods and a reprogrammed ECU is capable of WAY over 200hp at the rear wheel. (I would LOVE to tell you what it made at 10,500 RPM one time it was over-revved by “accident!”)
The torque “curve” is as flat as Nebraska, and about as wide. Think Honda VFR800 Interceptor flat, with Hayabusa level power at the wheel.
The 1250sc was designed by Walter out of his passion to do things his own way, and because of his desire to have “Made in America” on the gas tank. He did this himself, and where we have all dreamed and schemed about the “I’d like to do this or that”, Walter actually DID IT!
If he could build them for $ 9,000, he would. It has NEVER been about the money. That is simply an effect of the level of the hardware involved.
Due to the cost, it’s not for everyone, but it’s real, and hopefully it will find a home with about 50 lucky people.
Fade into obscurity? No. Walter/Roehr Motorcycles has been around for 10+ years doing this, AND I have seen the preliminary designs for the next Roehr, and it is COOL. (sorry Walter, my bad!)
In summary, it is a stunningly beautiful bike that is fast, powerful, unique, reliable, AND EPA and DOT road legal in all 50 states. These facts alone make it a stunning achievement.
Mark L.
PS- The ebay store offers a secure way to advertise and sell bikes with both buyer and seller protection. Go to the Roehr motorcycles web site for full specs. or to arrange a test ride etc.
Jeff says
True success will be mass production . Good Luck .
Jk says
Ok, niche or not America needs a new Identity. We are lazy innovators. MV? Why? We can design F22’s.
Ek says
@Jk
Not just MV Agusta but a MV Agusta without Tamburini
And the Roehr’s engine was designed by Porsche. But you can plaster “Made In America” over it, all you want