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Piaggio MP3 scooterIt seems quite a few of the new Piaggio MP3 tilting three wheelers are getting out on the road now and several of their new owners are leaving their impressions here at The Kneeslider. From the sound of it, performance from the 250cc version is more than adequate for highway riding which seemed to be a sticking point for some potential buyers. Judging from new owner comments, you can put that concern out of your mind. Of course, if you’re used to a large displacement motorcycle, you’ll say it’s underpowered, but you’re probably not the person who is considering one of these in the first place.

I particularly liked the comments from Bill who took one out for a test ride and initially felt a bit unsure of himself but then quickly got the feel for it, pretty much the same as it would be for any completely different bike. He placed his order, too, which says a lot. Chris already has over 1800 miles on his and regularly rides the freeway.

If you’re a new MP3 owner, tell us what your experience has been. If you’re considering one, check out the comments.

Link to previous comments from new owners, scoll way down.

UPDATE: We are getting a LOT of questions here at The Kneeslider about when and where the MP3 will be available. The place to go is the nearest Piaggio or Vespa dealer. For Locations check the dealer map.

Comments

  1. I saw one of these over the weekend and would like to test one out to see what that front end really does feel like. It was definitely more narrow than I expected.

  2. It’s funny how many people are siting the increased mileage for buying an MP3. Problem is, it’s not that great at around 50mpg. Power wise, it’s comparable to a Honda Rebel which gets better mileage, and better still is the 100mph, 70mpg, $3000 Kawasaki Ninja 250.

    The way I see it, the only benefits to the MP3 is its quirkiness, but it’s not worth as much as they want for it.

    -todd

  3. The MP3 is definitely a quirky vehicle. However, having reviewed the MP3 for ScooterWorld magazine, I can also say it’s a quirky vehicle with a lot of promise. I would love to see this concept extended into the realm of more traditional motorcycles.

    The gas mileage justification doesn’t really carry water, but it rarely does for any two wheeled vehicle that does not act as a replacement for a car or truck. When adding one to your stable of vehicles, the numbers don’t usually work out when you’re insuring a car and a bike. If that doesn’t negate any savings then maintenance costs and tires usually do.

    The benefit of the configuration of the MP3 is that it’s very stable and offers shorter braking distances. It also is less susceptible to turbulence and crosswinds at highway speeds. The MP3 also contains massive amounts of locking storage space under the seat. It’s optimized for commuting in a way that a Rebel or Ninja 250 simply are not.

  4. okay, here’s an idea, not one that i’m interested in owning, but one that seems like it would sell. how about an MP3-esque Goldwing? there’s an application that would suit this development perfectly.

  5. I just got word that I get to try out the new Can-Am Spyder in a couple of weeks, but I can’t help but think that it would be significantly better if it leaned into corners like the MP3.

  6. I rode the MP3-250. The bike is simply amazing in turns, curves, and twisties. If they bumped the wheels up to 16 or 17-inches and added the engine/tranny from the Aprilia 850 Mana I would buy one in a second.

  7. Had my MP3 in the shop at Vespa in San Diego for a check-up..It was funny..The mechanic told me I will need a new back tyre pretty soon…I have had it a little over 2 weeks…Over 2400 miles already…Wow…I love it!!!

  8. Only 2400 miles on a rear tire!?!?!? good luck with the amount of loot you’d need to maintain that scoot.

  9. Yeah, replacing tires at 2400 miles negates any savings in fuel economy. My money’s still on a Ninja 250 (though I won’t be buying one, I already have 9-1/2 motorcycles) at less than half the cost, 50% better fuel mileage, and tires that last 5 times as far. I think the $4000 savings could buy a nice set of touring cases and gas for the next 15 years worth of riding…

    -todd

  10. I am relative beginner motorcycle rider (Suzuki GZ-250), and still felt uneasy with leaning and turns. The Piaggio MP3-250 has greatly solved this problem. I bought one about 2 weeks ago, and I feel VERY comfortable riding it. Leaning into turns is now FUN instead of scary. Seat is a little high (I am only 5’1″), but Piaggio dealer is going to “custom” the seat, so I have a more secure footing on the ground. My husband, an experienced motorcyle rider, says the MP3 is a blast to ride also. I would highly recommend the MP3, especially is you love to ride but are a little nervous in turns. I’m keeping the Suzuki; hopefully I’ll trade on and off with the MP3.

  11. You won’t believe it..Today I was leaving my friends store in downtown San Diego and was going down the main street and was told to pull over by 7 motorcycle cops..One was a San Diego cop and the others were Highway patrol..I wish I had my camera..They wanted to check out my bike..Imagen 7 pollice bmw’s all lined up behind my bike..I wonder what every body thought driving by..The San Diego cop was was up to date on the laws and told me you don’t need a motorcycle license but you do need to wear a helmet..Cop’s are Ok!!!

  19. I bought my MP3 250 cc in early April and have NO regrets. I considered other scooters (500 cc), as well as motorcycles with larger displacements, prior to purchase. Features I particularly like about the MP3 are:
    – looks cool and unique
    – responsive acceleration and braking to/from a stop
    – stable ride at any speed, including interstate highways
    – great grip during turns, almost irrespective of road condition
    – incredibly easy to park, especially for smaller riders
    – lots of underseat and behind-seat storage
    – amazing gas mileage (I’m getting around 70 mpg for mixed highway/street)

  20. Thinking of buy a 250cc MP3 and had some questions for those that have taken the dive.

    How much did it cost out the door. My local dealer (Austin TX) is quoting me a price of $8,600. (7K for the bike, $1000 for “handling charge” and $600 in taxes). The handling charge makes me weary.

    What are you finding the average MPG and top speed?
    Thanks Bob

  21. Hi Bob,

    Your pricing sounds typical, although I am in CA. Maybe they could shave $100 or so off for you. I am averaging 70 mpg. The top speed is probably around 85 mph, depending on weight and the road grade. I have not yet had opportunities to attempt to go faster.

    Mona

  22. The dealer stiffed me for $8,500. for my MP3. I weigh only 105 pounds and I have only been able to tach it up to 75 mph. Yes, it’s the 250cc MP3. I told the dealer I bought it from that I strongly felt that it has serious problems with the front wheel locking system. It is very unsafe for smaller riders. I bet most of the owners that have posted positive comments about their MP3s are 140 pounds or more. My dealers return comment was that he could give me $4000. if I return my MP3. Huh, What Ya Talking bout, Willis? I would rather go out and engage the front wheel locking system going 70 mph around a very tight corner, than take a beating like that!

  23. Oh, and I forgot to mention the fact that I only have 30 miles on the odometer. You can have this unsafe 3 wheeler. I’ll keep the freedom of 2 wheels with my Vespa 250 GTS. I don’t have to lock the front wheel.

  24. I am presently stationed in Italy and was patiently waiting the arriveal of the MP3 on American shores. I was in Boston a month ago and bought one. It’s still in the crate and I won’t be able to ride it until I report to my next job in July. I did however, get to ride one in here in Italy. For the record I have two BMWs (R1150GS with 75K miles and my wife’s 650) and consider myself an experienced rider. It took me about 50 yards to get used to the MP3. I loved it, thought it had adequate pick-up from the line, handled well, especially over speed bumps, braked very well and was comfortable.

    I priced the tires and three Michelin replacement tires for the MP3 cost less than one of my GS tires. I was looking for something to commute on in Boston and the MP3 will be perfect. I’ll keep my GS for longer rides but I am already planning a cross country trip on my MP3. How fun would that be!! Perhaps I’ll actually go slower and smell the roses . . .

    So when I read all the comments on the MP3 I have to say–if it’s not for you then don’t buy one. There are much cheaper scoots out there and it is definitely NOT a motorcycle. But if you love to ride or are new to riding, or just like really cool scoots–this is a perfect choice.

    MPG: My GS gets 35-45 depending on how I”m riding. If I can get 55-65 on the MP3 and not spend $300-500 on my 6k and 12K BMW services and $250+ for tires every 5-10K (depending on how I’m riding and all the nails I seem to attract), then I’m a happy camper . . . errrr rider.

    Just my two cents and I hope to see more MP3s on the road. Be safe and keep the fiberglass up and the tires down.

    E

  25. To anyone reading this. If you can sit comfortabaly on the saddle with both feet flat on the pavement and can lean to each side at a stop without dropping it and without the front wheels blocked (lock engaged), well, I say run to buy it!

  26. Albert – are you for real ?

    “Unsafe” – ???
    This bike is taking the world by storm !
    I’m 130 lbs, am not flat footed – have ridden over 500 km… the MP3 is a phenomenon.

    It either is the wrong bike for you or – moe likely – you work for one of Piaggio’s competitors ! Just leave these reviews to the riders ..

  27. I never said anything about being flat footed. And I own and drive a 250 MP3. Question? How do You keep your MP3 from tipping over when you are at a stop without engaging the front wheel block?

  28. “… it’s comparable to a Honda Rebel which gets better mileage, and better still is the 100mph, 70mpg, $3000 Kawasaki Ninja 250…”

    What an idiot!

    The MP3 has NOTHING in comparison to those bikes.
    Criticizing it’s concept or price is like criticizing the
    Wright Bros, or Hydrogen cars. Idiot!

  29. Don’t get me wrong Melonda. I love my MP3. I am mainly concerned with it’s safety. I think that it is a good concept. What if the front wheels were widened apart a bit. Then the front wheels and tires were enlarged to match the rear tire and wheel? And get rid of that unsafe front wheel blocking system. Then slightly lower the center of gravity. The end result would be a riding machine that would be able to hold it’s own weight and it’s rider’s weight without tipping over at a stop, while having the ability to handle corners and turns as well or better than the current MP3. It would also be able to better handle all sorts of road conditions because of the bigger front tires. And think of it’s ability to handle a bigger more powerful engine, making it a faster more exciting and worry free ride?

  30. To think I’m being called an idiot for stating facts. My claim was for pure pragmatism since that was many people’s reasoning for buying an MP3.

    To rist being further deemed an idot, do the math yourself: MP3 = $7000, Ninja 250 = $3000 AND it’s much faster, 200 lb lighter, gets better mileage, much easier to flat foot and hold up wile stopped, handles better and probably stops quicker too. OK, so a ninja 250 can’t hold a helmet under its seat… I thought that was what your head was for.

    -todd

  31. I’m looking to buy one of these (250) for the school run.
    I’ve had large bikes previously but I’m wondering what the MP3 will be like with a pillion – anybody tried?
    This is my main concern – the extra stability is what is making this an attractive proposition, I wouldn’t put my daughter on it otherwise.
    Thanks.

    – Steve

  32. Just to put the fears of smaller riders at ease. I’m practically the same weight as Albert (without gear). I have a 29 inch inseam. I can put both feet on the ground when seated forward on the saddle. If you can’t put your feet down – yes, both of them – at a stop, the scooter or motorcycle is too big for you under emergency circumstances, and should not be purchased unless you’re willing to write off the damage later when you make a poorly planned turn/stop!

    The MP3 has a rider sensor in the front of the seat to prevent the MP3 from having the front wheel lock disengage when the rider is off the saddle. The sensor appears to activate in the presence of perhaps 50-80 pounds (my rough estimate). If you are actually sitting on the saddle rather than standing in fron the saddle, the sensor should know you are on the MP3, and disengage when you tell it to disengage (using the throttle or pressing the disengage button).

    Because of the front wheel lock, the MP3 can lull you into forgetting to put your feet down when you don’t engage the lock. I’d recommend using a pretty consistent strategy of either putting your feet down every time, or using the lock under well-defined circumstances. Its a beautiful and expensive scooter, and you don’t want to drop it for no good reason.

  34. My wife just bought this bike and she loves it, she is only 126lbs. Gas mileage is around 65-70. Its not a racing bike, its for commuting. The Ninja is a sports bike not a scooter! The bike handles briliantly and handles great in the rain. A little pricy but what do you expect for a revolutionary product.

  35. A Ninja 250 is neither a race bike nor a sports bike. It is a motorcycle, one that is immensely more practical than the MP3. Heck, you could buy His and Hers Ninjas with matching gear for both of you for less than the price of the MP3. Call it an EX250 if the Ninja moniker conjures up too many inferences.

    The MP3 is interesting and quite a conversation piece I have to give you that.

    -todd

  36. I just bought the MP3 and I love it. I was going to buy a Harley to commute with but this is a much better and cheaper alternative. I live in a small town so it is also perfect to ride and do small erands. I do not have the courage to ride it on big Interstate Hwys yet. Has any one? I live in Texas. Any one interested in starting a Vespa or Mp3 club? Cheers!

    Richard

  37. I just found this site check it out..Modern Vespa.com has a forum for Mp3’s..I have had mine for over a month now and have almost 8000 miles on it..I love driving it on the freeway’s..Richard I would recommend highly getting those little concave mirrors cause those cars can come up to you fast on the freeway. I have had a couple of close calls but these little stick on’s really help..

  38. I have been pondering to buy this MP3 since I saw it @ the NY motorcycle show. I am learning how to ride and need something stable the only hangup I have is the prise of it. But the more I read and see of this scooter the more I like it

  39. I am notorious for crashing any vehicle ever constructed for the road. Cars, trucks, SUVs, especially with stick shifters…if it has wheels, an engine, and is not falling apart (yet), you can bet I have done truly epic damage to it.

    My 2000 Honda Accord was now less than pristine (I refer you to the above paragraph) and I had just gotten my motorcycle license, so I was in need of some hot wheels. So last weekend I was cruising with my main man Eric D. when we discovered this Vespa dealership with at least fifty two wheeled beauties for us to ogle/road test/otherwise destroy. And it was there that I saw…IT.

    Three wheels. A liquid cooled 250cc motor. Wickedly aggressive styling (and for a scooter, no less). Color that looked like jet black, sort of. The Vespa/Piaggio MP3. This three-legged, almost ATV-like Italian Stallion was the ride I had been dreaming about owning. I’d heard rumors a while back that it was coming to the States but had never seen one in person. And here I was, staring at something so advanced, so futuristic, that I swore it would transform into a Decepticon right there on the showroom floor. However, the Italians generally don’t build stuff that transforms. They leave that to the Japanese.

    I am 5’8″ and weigh about 150 pounds, and had no trouble straddling myself into the MP3’s saddle. It did drop a few inches when I sat on it, which gave me a little hint about the suspension setting being somewhat mild on our particular scooter. The locking mechanism active, I rested my feet inside the scooter and noted the interior hugged me quite snugly. I think anyone who’s taller than 6 feet may want to test ride it for a while or consider a bigger ride, as I’d imagine they might feel a bit cramped.

    Storage space was relatively good with two compartments, one in the rear with room for a helmet and another underseat compartment for your various odds and ends, or possibly storage for a second helmet. I’d imagine it’s a great scoot for a college commute route or one-night getaway considering the space that’s available.

    First impressions complete, Eric D. and I somehow brown-nosed the sales manager into letting us ride the thing. And so the fun begins.

    First of all, I was very pleased with its riding habits in a straight line. I thought 250cc would be rather insufficient, but it definitely exceeded my expectations and I was able to pull away from most four-wheeled traffic from a standing start with ease. Navigating through crowded streets was a breeze and also convenient. I live in California where gutter sniping and lane splitting (riding between lanes) is legal, and although it’s wide, the MP3 is narrow enough to sandwich itself between most four-wheeled traffic.

    Once you roll to a stop, the locking mechanism activates with the flick of a switch, once a blinking light accompanied by a cute chirp tells you it’s safe to do so. I’m pretty sure it’s easy to ride off into the sunset and fall over clumsily because you forgot to unlock your suspension, so remembering to unlock and lock the front when appropriate at a stop is a good mental note to keep in mind.

    But ultimately, the handling is what this thing is all about. I’ve ridden a leased Honda Rebel before while I was still learning, and thought it had decent performance in turns. But going from that to the MP3 is a paradigm shift in itself. This thing handles corners on wet surfaces as though they were dry, and the third wheel gave me a lot of confidence to take on even sharp hairpin turns with ease. And when I say this thing can turn, just ask my main dawg Eric D., who must have done an 80-degree turn on El Camino and Third Avenue, while some fool in a Porsche probably thought to himself, “Man, I could do that without even having to tilt.”

    And when the day was done, Eric D. and I summed up our experience with a wildly approving but pathetically corny impromptu review: “Man, that’s one MP3 that we’d LOVE to download!!”

    If I had the cash, I’d buy it right there on the spot and have another vehicle to destroy…oh the joy. For now I’ll gladly save up my hard-earned retail paychecks to add this MP3 to my growing library of vehicles to crash.

    Two…er…three wheels forever!!

  40. Hi y’all, Greeting from Ont, Canada. Just past my 1000 miles, 70 mpg (fast start riding); top speed 88 mph. Loves every second with it, could use a little bit more power. Very stable on the highway, can’t wait to put some performance parts on it.

  41. I am interested in joining a central TX MP3 Club!!!! I am going to go and convince the wife this weekend that I have to have one.

    Larry

  42. I’ve had my MP3 for about 2 months now and I love it. I had a two wheeled scooter that was lighter before and got rid of it because I wanted something with more power, built better and with more stability and that’s exactly what I got. It’s faster than what I need. I’ve taken it up to 80 mph, but I prefer between 35 and 50 mph. I am bummed out if there’s a single day where I don’t get a chance to ride. It is not like a trike, because it has a 40 degree leaning ability because of the suspension. You don’t need to lock your front wheels when you stop, but it’s nice when you have to sit there for a few minutes while waiting for the light. Unlike what someone said earlier, you don’t have to remember to unlock it when you go because it unlocks automatically based on your RPMs. You can easily drive off without ever putting your feet down, but I always put my feet down first and make sure I’m perfectly level before I lock the suspension. It is heavy enough that you always need to be alert so that you don’t lay it down from a standing position or when going very slow and maneuvering, but not nearly as heavy as a big bike.
    Because of it’s weight, I wouldn’t advise extremely short or light persons to get this scooter. I’m 6 ft, 180 lbs and it took a fair amount of strength for me to pick it up from it’s side. I made the mistake of going off of a curb at an angle instead of straight and I wasn’t prepared at the time to firmly plant my feet and rescue it before it fell, but I learned my lesson and doubt I’ll ever have to lift it up again unless I crash. A decent size person like me would normally have a hard time laying it down. It’s so stable when you ride it practically feels like your riding on rails.
    While it can be handled like a 2 wheeled cycle with counter steering etc, when your going slow and trying to maneuver around tight turns, you can turn the wheels just like a car. I didn’t realize this at first and made really wide U turns because I was scared of laying it down, but then I realized that I could make a really tight turn if I actually steered instead of leaning.

    When the Hybrid comes out, I’m seriously thinking of getting the HYS MP3 as well. I love this scooter. It’s so much fun to ride. People do double takes all the time and the worst part about it now is that people won’t stop asking me questions when I park it or leave, especially if I’m in a hurry. I liked the attention at first, but now I want people to pay attention to the road and leave me to my fun.

    The people that don’t like this vehicle are idiots. Yes, it does take a little getting used to, but it doesn’t take long to do so.

    Also, I live in northern California and according to my dealer, there’s a loophole because of the 3 wheels and a motorcycle license isn’t legally required. Only a regular driver’s license. I haven’t test this out yet though because I haven’t been pulled over yet. Then again, when’s the last time you saw a cop pulling a scooter over?

  43. Brought my MP3 in May after I dropped by Sv650 for the 3rd and final time!!
    So far “scoot” has been to Silverstone to the World SBK and Donington for the Moto GP and she keeps hubbys R1 company in the garage!!!
    I LOVE MY MP3 – Any UK owners out there fancy a get together?

  44. just bought my new mp3…great machine…i ride on the 101 in california and it has enough power for overtaking and maintaining with cars going 70+ mph…fun in the turns…

  45. Test rode in large US city in May, the MP3 handled itself very well including one emergency braking maneuver. So I bought one a month later to have at my family’s country house and it was absolutely perfect for daily 10-15 mile shopping trips on country roads. Lots of cargo space, very stable, plenty visible. Compares very favorably as commuter/shopping-mobile to all other vehicles from pick ups to motorcycles to bicycles. Easy to park, easy to handle, forgiving and fun.

  46. Hey Todd, pls go sell your Ninja 250 some where else. It’s weird that non-riders would compare a car with a motorcycle, but it’s even weirder that a rider could even confuse about a motorcycle and a scooter? Wow.. And still insisted that the comparison is valid, are you for real? This is just a friendly heads-up b4 you start comparing oranges with apples for their vitamin content or price and start convincing everybody to just eat apple.

  47. I just bought a mp3 250cc today and they are delivering it to my house tommorow.I paid $6,950 period..No add on charges and they added two more years to the warranty..If I break down they pick it up and fix it..That’s three years on the warranty and I couldn’t pass the deal up..
    I went to the dealer today out of curiosity after reading someone paid $8,500 for one and I had to see for myself..He’s right he did get ripped off..Also I’m 5,11 and when I sat on the scooter my feet touch flat but not by a lot so I can understand where that short guy is coming from..A short person would have a lot of trouble riding it..I’ll keep you informed on how I like it in a few weeks..

  48. Just put 2000 miles on the MP3. Basicly it rides like a two wheel bike. Perhaps a little more stable. I’m 6’4″ and 180lbs so for me it has the power of a 250 cc bike. Going up a steep hill or against a stiff head wind will slow it down but it’s fairly easy to tuck down behind the fairing to pick up a few more mph. Also a lot warmer when it’s cold. I use the locking front forks to stabilize the scooter before getting off or letting my wife off, it is just easier. For a little fun pretend to balence the scooter at a stop. When you drive off it will move just like a normal bike. When first moving the scooter and there is an uneven surface or a curb that I’m going over I’ll either unlock the front forks with the switch or just gun the engine a little to automatically disengage them. If I don’t, the scooter will rock to one side and could tip all the way over. It’s small but still fun to ride. I’ll miss it when my wife gets her licence and I’ll have to go back to my Beemer:)

  49. My main questions about the mp3 before purchase involve power and fuel economy. Will the mp3 250 cruise occasionally on the interstate for hours (6 or 7)at a decent speed (60-65) without undue wear on the engine/drivetrain/rider due to excessive rpm’s ? What sort of mpg’s can be expected cruising at these speeds ? Main usage will be for city/suburban errand running, so I need an honest opinion on it’s 0-40 acceleration capabilities under normal traffic conditions on flat terrain. I realize it’s no rocket, but is it a slug ? I just want to be able to accelerate at a pace acceptable to 99 percent of other drivers without being cursed at! Suburban average mpg ? Any thoughts on seat/leg/riding comfort ? Rider info.- 6 foot-185 lbs.-29 inseam. Experience- mopeds Thanks in advance! BILL

  50. I bought my MP3 on Oct 31, 356 miles ago.
    I LOVE IT!

    I quit riding bikes on the street 35 years ago, due to traffic. I bet when gas becomes $5 per gal the traffic will be a lot less. When I started reading about the MP3 over a year ago I thought they would be a safer bike due better traction on the front end. I believe I made the right choice. Braking and front end traction is just out of this world.

    To Bill #49: It definitely is not a slug and 0 to 40 feels real good (sorry no figures). It accelerates from a stoplight faster than most city traffic. Very smooth with no vibration with intake noise being louder than exhaust when wide open. You tend to crank it wide open from the start. It won’t do wheelies, won’t even spin a tire on asphalt. The engine jumps up to 7600 rpm and the bike accelerates quickly until you reach 65 mph. It turns about 8000 rpm at 75 mph top end, seems to be limited by the computer. I don’t have a lot of gas mileage history, but I did check it today when I filled it up for only the second time (the dealer delivered it with a full tank). I sloshed it over the top on both the first and second fill ups. Between my first and second refill, I went 137.2 miles on 2.242 gallons of gas. That is 61.2 mpg and that was on a 100 mile road trip that averaged 65 mph and the rest was having fun around little used paved roads really wringing it out. No mercy shown and didn’t care how much gas it burned 🙂

    As I mentioned the brakes are really great. It won’t do a good stopie. It’s really hard to get the rear tire more than 6″ off the ground. If you don’t have your elbows straight, I believe it could put you over the handle bars. The people at DMV (had to get a motorcycle endorsement) couldn’t believe how fast it could stop. They made me do both stopping test twice. I don’t know if they thought I was cheating or if they just couldn’t believe what they were seeing 🙂

    It has very large under seat storage and the fit and finish is first class all the way.

    NEITHER I, NOR ANY OF MY FAMILY HAVE ANY CONNECTION TO PIAGGIO (BUT I AM THINKING ABOUT BUYING SOME STOCK)

    Bob in FL

  51. I’ve had my MP3 for 6 months and would say this is the best purchase I’ve made in the last 20 years!! not only fun, powerful for the 250cc but a pure joy to ride! very reliable and returning 60 mpg+ and with gas prices going the way they are this is the future. Example I was paying $170+ a month is gas for my car, after putting $2000 down my payments are $57 dollars a month and my gas bill has shrunk to $30 per month so I’m coming out ahead while buying my MP3.

  52. I WILL BE TURNING 60 IN MAY AND I HAVE LOOKED AT SEVERAL SCOOTERS .THIS SITE HAS REALLY HELPED ME IN MY BUYING DECISION.I WILL SOON BE PURCHASING AN MP3 250.THANKS TO ALL FOR YOUR EXTREMELY HELPFUL COMMENTS!!RON.

  53. Hi all, i have an mp3 with about 2000 miles on it, i have been experiencing a noise that seems to be related with the cluch. When its traveling at low speed and i accelerate i get a noise that feels like something is not right. I took it to the Vespa dealer and according to them its “normal” and it is cause because the cluth has not been worn down…….has anyone experience something similar?

  54. Hi Felipe

    I had the same problem as you with a noise in the clutch. I had it replaced under warranty. Now 5000 km. later its fine. What I believe, was the problem, my bike was in a bike show and the demonstrators held the brake on and increased the throttle revs. to show customers how the front wheel lock deactivates automatic when revs increase. This caused the clutch to slip and in the end the clutch drum overheats and the steel turns blue. Re-dressing the 3 clutch pads don’t work. get it replaced, the noise spoils a fantastic ride.

  55. Does anyone have comments about the MP3 400 or 500. I’m considering a purchase…looked at the Spyder..but found that I am more comfortable on a sit down bike rather than one I have to stradle..also I do not want to put my foot down when I stop….and mpg is as big concern…but also is power and road trips…that’s why I would appreciate and comments on the larger engines…thanks.

  56. Took a look at the MP3 the other day at Vespa Oceanside (CA). Beautiful! I’m 5’4″ and 128 lbs, so I’m a little leery about handling a heavy bike such as this (I ride a Malaguti Ciak 50cc right now). Especially backing it out of a garage and turning around to get out to the street. Any comments from owners? Thanks!

  57. I have had my MP3 250 since last July, and it is great fun, although underpowered. I think I have a decent perspective on this bike, having owned a slew of Vespas including a GTS as well as large displacement Ducatis and BMWs for the past 30 years. The ability to throw this thing into a corner regardless of road surface and to use the brakes however I like is probably the best fun. I am planning to pick up the 500 soon and give the 250 to my daughter. I have read the comments about the locking system and I understand the concerns that it is unsafe if one is “lulled” into a sense of infallibility with the system. My response to this is that motorcycles are inherently unsafe relative to cars, and complacency of any kind is foolish. The MP3 is unique, expensive, and great fun, and, like owning an exotic animal, is only for those who are willing to put up with real or perceived idiosyncrasies in exchange for the benefits.

  58. What about the motor. Does anyone have any info on reliability. I am interested in the 500.

  59. I hear leg room is an issue on these.. What are some of your longest inseams? I’m sitting ~ 33″ actual and curious if it’s just going to be too small. I hear a few 34″ inseam people ride it and it’s snug but not too too bad. But I’d like more opinions.

  60. A first-time rider, I bought a Vespa GTS 250 in November and am having a blast. I especially enjoy the automatic, which leaves me to concentrate exclusively on just-plain riding for most anything up to about 65 mph. Easy and fun.

    But I definitely want to move up to something heavier and faster for highway driving and commuting, something a little more stable in turns under adverse conditions (rough pavement, rain, gravel, etc.) My two choices are the MP3 500 and the Aprilia Mana 850, the latter due in dealerships this month. Both automatics cost about the same, weigh about the same and have the same seat height. Both look great to my eyes.

    The Mana has more power, of course, although I doubt I’d need to go much beyond 80-85 mph. The MP3 seems to win on safety, although I wonder what would happen when its small wheels hit potholes at interstate speeds. I like that the Mana has factory accessories of an adjustable windshield and a three-piece hard luggage system. The MP3 500 gets those accessories through Givi (top case only), but their styling and functionality fall short.

    Some pros, some cons to each. Any thoughts?

  61. I’m 6’3″ 205lbs and am completely comfortable on the mp3 250. It took a few days to find my comfortable riding position but now I love the scoot. I ride highway 101 in Los Angeles daily and my commute is 40 miles round trip. I have had no problems with traffic speed, tops has been 75mph. Up a steeper incline at full throttle it drops to 60-65mph. Last mpg for me was 61. I’m purchasing the full windshield as the wind comes up and over the stock shield and hits me in the chest/face. I’ll be getting the topcase for extra storage. I don’t use the wheel lock much since a few times I engaged it I happened to be leaning a bit and they locked in the lean while moving. That wasn’t the best thing. But for long traffic lights and hill parking etc. the wheel lock is fantastic. Acceleration surely isn’t jaw dropping but that wasn’t the reason I purchased it. For me I think it’s the perfect vehicle for my commute. Handle’s great, stops well, the accelerator is smooth and forgiving and there can be enough storage for extra shoes, computer bag etc.. I had considered the 400/500 but the extra cost, $1600/$1800 and lower gas mileage, outweighed the extra top speed/acceleration benefit. Hope this helps. Have fun be safe!

  62. I currently ride 06 vespa GT200 I use it for work and at times the wind can ger rough. I want to get the MP3 because of stability and safety. Any input on stability?

    Also I have my heart set to get 500 I do get alot of people saying that 250 is good enough. Input?

  63. I currently own a Harley 993 sporster and a burgman 650. I purchased the MP3 250 this spring with a top case for commuting around town. I was attracted to this scooter based on a number of reviews on handeling and brakeing. At first I felt a littl snug on the scooter since I am 6′ 3″ tall and weigh 260lbs with a 34″ inseam. My knees were slightly higher than my butt and I thought I had made a mistake and might have to sell it. I purchased an air hawk cushion after reading many forums and it made all the difference in the world. It is now my scooter of choice for short runs and errands around town. I have run it wide open on an expressway where the average speed is 65 to 70. At these speeds it is not as stable as the burgman but I think a taller wind screen would help improve wind flow and stablility. About the front wheel locking – I never try to lock it while coming to a stop, I just put my feet down. The locking is fantistic for parking even on uneven surfaces – I love this feature. Great bike and it is now my favorite for most of my riding. For highway crusing I will just keep the burgman 650 since it feels much more stable at speeds over 65. I would recommend the MP3 for anyone who wants a fun scooter which gets excellent gas mileage.

  64. The MP3 is certainly intriguing, a neat idea. I would be interested in one, but don’t see the value in the equation. As I see it, you are paying top dollar here for questionable return versus alternatives. Depreciation is likely to be higher than other mainline scooters. Parts and service availability less, and price more expensive than others. MPG disappointing for a 250cc. I think the MP3 250 is about 2 grand overpriced. At $5k range, I can see the point in this machine. At $7k, I think you have to own an oil well, be crazy, or just plain don’t care about the price to justify it. Too many other excellent mid-size scoots out there for a lot less money with better support infrastructure and lower running costs long-term. A really neat item from a technical perpective, though, and great-looking. Kind of reminds me of Peugeot cars back in the day. Overpriced, and made no sense compared to better-established marques, but had character.

  65. People still seem to miss the fact that a brand new Kawasaki 250 Ninja costs $3500, gets 70MPG and can do 100mph easy. It’s also more stable on the highway and weighs substantially less at around 340 pounds. Plus it has a lower seat height and no problems with being too cramped for larger riders.

    The money you save could buy you 15 years of gas if you rode 5000 miles a year.

    -todd

  66. The Ninja 250 is a decent bike, but you forget, you have to shift it, there is no storage, almost zero wind protection. And it is darn tiny, I am 5 foot 10 and 170 lbs, I ride my friends Ninja 250 and I feel like I am on a bicycle with a chainsaw motor under me, the riding position is no where near as comfortable as the MP3. Not even close actually.

    Taking a passenger on the Ninja 250 is darn near impossible unless they are the size of a child.

    You have to REV the crap out of the Ninja to get any kind of performance and gas mpg is stellar on the Ninja but more like 60-65 mpg.

    Let me tell you from experience going over 100 mph on the Ninja you really got to run the motor hard.

    The speed limit is 65 mph, so the fact that it will go 100 mph really doesn’t matter to most people.

    People who are buying the MP3 don’t want a motorcycle or they would just buy one. So to keep trying to compare the Ninja 250 to the MP3 is really a moot point.

    People who buy the MP3 want comfortable riding, great gas mpg, huge underseat storage, no shitfing and things like that.

    Just the grocery bag hook alone makes it worth buying and the underseat storage, lockable at that. And a 12 volt power socket!!!

  67. I am not sure how the Ninja would be more stable on the highway due to lower weight? That is actually one of the biggest complaints of the Ninja is being tossed around on the highway and not being a very good highway bike. Heavier bikes are better on the highway, my 600 lb Vulcan 800 is way more stable than the Ninja 250 on the highway.

    Honestly even on a price vs. price basis the MP3 is a better buy in my opinion than the Ninja.

    MP3, better wind protection, better able to carry a passenger, lockable waterproof under seat storage, more stable in the rain, fully automatic. 12 volt power socket, grocery hook.According to Progressive it is 150 dollars more a year to insure the Ninja for the same coverages. Ability to lock suspension to not have to keep putting feet down at stoplights. Larger more comfortable riding position. Equivalent gas mpg. The extra money gives a person allot more for the money.

    Ninja 250, tiny, sport bike riding position, low weight means getting blown around on the highway, no storage,even adding tank bangs and saddlebags still won’t compare to the lockable waterproof storage on the MP3. High revving engine means allot of shifting to stay in power band( I mean ALLOT of shifting). Forget carrying a passenger in any kind of comfort or safety.

  68. Well, I might as well start by saying I am 15. My goal is to save enough money to buy a used MP3 250 next year when I turn 16. So far, I think that it is quite stylish while maintaining a sense of safety and security. However, my mother has emotional problems with it because her brother died in a motorcycle accident in his early 20s. Honestly, it was because of the lack of safety and protection…Anyway I was hoping if I could get some insight on the prices, mechanics, and above all safety. I would also appreciate if some experienced riders could describe their experiences a little bit more in depth in terms of the relations between YOU and the vehicle. Thanx for ur help =)( I may be young, but I am a hard-worker and determined…)

  69. I did a lot of research (to include this site0 before coming to a final decision. It is official
    I called two dealers in NC, the first gave me a price of $8,600.00 for the 250, i told him the MSRP was $7,100.00, I was then told the price is up because of the demand. I called B.S. and told him thanks but no thanks.
    called dealer #2 asked for a black cherry red MP3 250, he told me he had one on the way and it should be there in about a week. asked how much, he said $7,200.00, asked for our the door price…$7,620.00 SOLD!!! great guy, emailed me a week later said it was in, took dated pictures of it for me (I’m in Iraq). he even said he would store it in the dealership warehouse in the crate until I get home in January. I immediately sent him the full price (via verified dealer account information) and now i am a very happy camper that can’t wait to get on it.
    I love the fact that big guys have no problems on it, i am 6’1″ 215lbs with a 32″ inseam.
    thank you guys for all the reviews and input.
    Oh buy the way…how can you even think to compare a Ninja 250 to a MP3 250…(everybody smile now 😉 )…that’s not even apples to oranges…more like…well i don’t know somebody help me out with an analogy. see ya later on the road guys

  70. Hi I just recently bought me a MP3 400 and I love it. I was reading the whole ninja 250 deal I actually use to own a ninja 250R its great on gas and power is ok just need to be a lil agressive. I love my new MP3 400 picks up really well great on hills freeway and yes wind resistance its great I am 5’0 125. I don’t hardly use the front wheel locks only to park it I can tippy toe. You have to get use to the front wheel locks if you wanted to use is. You can lock it at any angel on a curve it can be locked. With a little bit of gas it will unlock so beware. But I had my heart set on getting the 500 but the 500 doesn’t have much trunk space as the 400.

    But stability wise the MP3 wins over the ninja 250 ^_^

    It is pricey its a piaggio.

  71. well I sold my spyder 2 months ago great ride just not for me. bought a yamaha stratoliner midnight great bike untill I saw the MP3 500 at the BMW dealer!!! just have to have one without even taking it for a spin. trying to work a deal as I type this.

  73. Just bought my mp3 500 and it arrives this saturday!! I cant stand the tension… price hit me hard, though.

  74. I have helped two of my female friends with buying 2, 250 MP3’s and both are having Throttle problems, sticking on and no response to locking the front wheels. The Throttle sticking usually happens while turning. One is in the Hospital with a shattered shoulder, broken arm and broken foot. The first 3 people to stop and help were Doctors (can you believe that!!!!) . Think God she was wearing a full-face helmet or she would have died. I think this is a problem that is being pushed aside by Vespa Dealers. If you are or have had this problem, please leave your side of the story here so others will be aware and can take precautions and have it checked out at a dealer and then you have a record it was a concern. By the way, I have been riding scooters and motorcycles for 49 years so I know a little about riding!

  75. I’m a new rider. Bought my MP3 500 in May ’08. Here is the bottom-line from my perspective.

    Cool Factor:
    Nothing compares. I’m constantly stopped, arriving and departing store parking lots, by people with loads of questions. I’ve even been followed off the freeway with guys shouting question out their car windows. Big burley guys on HD’s pull up beside me with questions.

    Gas milage:
    I’m averaging 55mpg comuting at 75mph (20mi each way to work). That even beats my wife’s Prius (43.5mpg).

    Handling:
    I’m a realtively new rider, so my skills are still on the low end, but during a recent road tip to the mountains I was able to (easily) keep up with the 7 Harley riders I was with. The Ninja riders wanted to take my MP3 500 for a spin. Ya right! Get you own!

    Wheel Lock:
    I use the wheel-lock switch all the time. Keeps my feet off the hot black So. California asphault. It also makes the motorcycle riders do a double-take.

    Windscreen:
    The MP3 500 does not come with a windscreen like the 250 and 400, so buy one. You will be SOoooo glad you did. scootertrap.com

    Reliability:
    I own two scooters (MP3 500 & LX150). Both came with initial quality problems that took the dealer 1-3 weeks to resolve (each), what a pain in the butt, but once resolved they are running fine.

    Weight:
    Yes, the MP3 500 is a but hefty at 540lbs. I bought the LX150 as my daughter’s learner bike. I recommend starting out small and build your way up…it is better than getting hurt. After two months with the LX150 my daughter is ready to move up to a 200cc or 250cc. She is still looking at various models. Resale value of the LX150 should be strong.

    Protection:
    Don’t even think of riding without a FULL-FACE helment. See Jerry St James story, above. If you are riding on the freeway make certain you have leather gloves, jacket, etc.

    Be safe out there.

  76. Wagnet thanks for the scootertrap.com site dealer was selling the windshield for the mp3 400 to me for 300 when I can get it from the site for 170 very helpful thank you.

  77. just purchased the 500 now you guys got me alittle nervous about riding. whats the deal with the wheel locking system? do you have to use it? and what about the throttle problem? i have not ridden in a couple of years but as i gotten older i wanted something to ride to work thus leaving the car at home. getting to old to hit the pavement so help me out riders.

  78. My MP3 is a lot of fun to ride. The ease of us is amazing. Power ? plenty all you need harley people need not apply. This is a joy, it handle unlike anything I’ve ever driven.
    My whole family want to ride it even my harley riding son. If you looking for fun blowing down a country road, and turning heads this is it.

  79. I test road a mp3 250cc this weekend, it seemed a little narrow at first, but the cornering resembled my motorcycle but a little better actually, three wheels with the front two for stability and traction, not bad at all. I took my wife with me and the weight was balanced very well. We will be getting one of these for the wife, ladies
    first of course!

  80. I am 5’2 and 105 lbs I sit on the seat and my tip toes hit the ground only. Could I custom the seat or is this bike just to big for me? 250

  81. I have had my MP3 400cc scooter for 7 months now and LOVE IT! I learned on a Yamaha 850 special (2 years ago) and also took the motorcycle course in San Diego (just to be safe). The MP3 is a whirlwind of fun and safety.

    Great points:
    Major storage under the seat and a little pop up truck too
    Very comfortable at higher speeds (have only taken it to 75 once- BAD girl I am)
    Easier in the turns that motorcycles I have riden
    If you like attention this is the bike for you. I have people rolling down their windows at stop lights to ask me question. Even a HaArley rider I talked to is considering one for his 2nd ride)
    The seating position is plain awesome. VERY comfortable!
    Decent mpg – I am averaging 65 mpg
    Not having to put your feet down in a stop after you have mastered the front locking system is easy on my legs

    Bad points:
    The price was heafty and I neg. to 8.9K with a custom paint job (Keylime GREEN)
    If you are slightly off center when you lock the front in a stop be prepared to unlock it and put your legs down because you can’t start off again like that b/c the bike get wonky

    And there you have it. Go test drive one for yourself…I LOVE mine!

  82. I’m 5’2″ and am having a hard time making a decision about the 250 also. I found someone that can customize the seat and would do an awesome job. But, it’s hard for me to fathom buying it without knowing for sure if the seat will make the difference between me being on my tippy toes and being flat footed. With the amount of leg room (or lack of leg room) they offer, you would think it would be perfect for a short person.

  83. I ride both a Piaggio MP3 400 and a Suzuki Boulevard M50. The Piaggio feels far more secure in the rain on wet surfaces. I feel that the three wheels in the front negates the loss of traction one gets with rain. While I have ridden the Suzuki in the rain, I am far more cautious (and nervous) doing so. The Piaggio is more stable at highway speeds. While the Suzuki is a very fine mid-sized cruiser, I feel a bit more buffeting at 65-70 mph on the Suzuki than on the Piaggio. The Suzuki (800 plus CC) has more acceleration and a higher highway speed, but the extra power is relatively inconsequential to me since I ride relatively conservatively. On dry roads, I feel the Suzuki is better suspended and a bit more confortable, but the Piaggio is fine.

  84. Piaggio 400 and Boulevard M50 comparsions continued: I weight 175 lbs and am 5’8″. I am able to back the M50 out of parking places quite well as long as the slope is either level or downhill. The higher seat on the Piaggio 400 makes backing out more difficult for me, so I simply pull the 400 out without sitting on it. That task would be impossible for me with the M50 since the bike is about 40 lbs heavier than the Piaggio and has no locking mechanism in the front. At this point I feel I can turn a bit more sharply with the M50 than the Piaggio 400 since I am more experienced on the M50. But with slow speed turns, the Piaggio wins hands down.

  85. I just bought the Piaggio Mp3 500 two days ago…I can’t stop riding it! The bike is truly amazing. Here is a short list of what’s working for the Piaggio 500ie and what’s not…for the good column: great sense of security corning, amazing lighting for night time riding, can handle freeway speeds without any trouble (75-80 MPH), key fob for seat release, makes you wanna run errands all day long, get more stares then the best sports car out there…as a matter of fact it’s good at picking up woman too…a couple approach, the guy laughing and before he new it his girlfriend was asking a complete stranger (Me) for a ride. Ha ha! The cons: The comfortable seat is positioned too far forward (Corbin is already in the process of designing a replacement), the temperature gauge (which I love is about 10 degrees off), the front brake levers are a bit too big for people with smaller hands, and the speedo and tach are set up for kilometers with corresponding mph speeds in tiny numbers in the middle of the circular dial.

    Other then that this thing is a beast, you can literally tear through town, digesting the streets, turns, pot holes and road patching that normally sends a front tire into the wiggles…not the Mp3 it begs for more!!

    I love this scooter!

  86. So I bought the 500 today and dropped it right outside of the dealer lot. BIG BRUISE TO THE EGO! I was so worried about figuring out how to get the wheel locks engaged and disengaged that I forgot 101 basics on riding.
    Well lesson learned… I found that not using the wheel locks makes me ride just fine. It may take a while to get used to them b/c it’s not natural for me to do but eventually it’ll be a great asset I’m sure! I’m 5’5″ but have short legs so its kinda uncomfy getting my feet down. I’m going to have to look at a custom seat to reduce seat height.
    Aside from that I’m having a blast with the thing!

  87. So with all the talk about smaller riders, what about really tall riders? I’m dying to get one of these but I’m 6’1″ and I’m afraid I’ll be hunched over the handlebars. If I ride with my legs in the forward position (because you can have your legs at a 90 degree angle or stretched out front, right?) do you think I’ll be cramped at all? I worry that after half an hour my shoulders will be killing me. Please tell me I’m wrong!

  88. Anyone have experience with 2008 vs 2009 250? Clearance on 2008 is running $1500 under new 2009. Can’t see much difference in specs.

  89. I’m looking at my options for either a dealer’s demo 2008 Mp3 500cc, or a private sale 2007 400cc. Obviously the private sale Mp3 is less, but I’m thinking more along the lines of maintenance. There is a lot more complexity to this brilliant machine, so what is an honest assessment of the projected upkeep?
    Also, any thoughts about the +/- of the 400cc vs the 500cc? I like the added storage on the 400.
    Great posts BTW, keep it up!

  90. Karin. I am the same height. I have MP3 250 mainly for commuting but have done some long hours in the saddle as well. 90 degree angle only for legs. I have got accustomed to the riding position and do not notice much discomfort at all. I put a Fabbri medium screen on to improve the higher speed riding comfort. I look for every opportunity to ride. It is great fun!!

  91. I am seriously thinking of getting an MP3 500 for the stability. I have always ridden Harleys, and I currently own a 2005 Sportster. I had a 2000 Harley Super Glide that got demolished by a pick up truck that ran a red light about nine years ago. I lost my lower left leg in that accident, and when I did decide to ride again I bought the smaller Sportster. Now I’ve got arthritis pretty bad (I’m 71 years old) and am having trouble handling the Sportster. I really don’t want to have to give up riding again, because I’ve always said if you can sit you can ride, but that does not take into account slow speed maneuvering.
    Anyone out there with a similar problem ?