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	<title>Comments on: Motorized Mountain Bike &#8211; Traveling Light</title>
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		<title>By: JonJon</title>
		<link>http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2010/07/23/motorized-mountain-bike-traveling-light/#comment-360052</link>
		<dc:creator>JonJon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a true thing of beauty, don&#039;t make it yourself, go into business with an electric bike shop to use their contacts to get it made in china from the imported parts you specify.  They would just be doing the assembly then sell it everywhere.  I know a guy in Melbourne who had an idea for a design of electric bike that nobody else had made and he did just that.  Quite successfull.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a true thing of beauty, don&#8217;t make it yourself, go into business with an electric bike shop to use their contacts to get it made in china from the imported parts you specify.  They would just be doing the assembly then sell it everywhere.  I know a guy in Melbourne who had an idea for a design of electric bike that nobody else had made and he did just that.  Quite successfull.</p>
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		<title>By: Detti</title>
		<link>http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2010/07/23/motorized-mountain-bike-traveling-light/#comment-280565</link>
		<dc:creator>Detti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Al, der erste Beitrag hier mal in Deutsch. Dein Bike sieht echt geil aus, Respekt! Wann gehst du in Serie damit?
Gruß Detti</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Al, der erste Beitrag hier mal in Deutsch. Dein Bike sieht echt geil aus, Respekt! Wann gehst du in Serie damit?<br />
Gruß Detti</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 22:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ron...the M85 fits into a totally different niche. Fun to build and fun to ride...yes.
With the M85 it&#039;s hard to find places to ride offroad but with my bike I have heaps of MTB tracks  to choose from these days.
The M85 cannot be used on Mountainbike tracks because it cannot be pedaled. 
And some pedaling needs to be done on many parts of the tracks and motoring is illegal.
On a recent ride I had to lift my bike (the one in this post) 20 times over fallen trees...hard work but possible while with anything even slightly heavier it would not have been possible.
 28 kg/62 lbs is the absolute maximum one would want to pedal and lift over obstacles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ron&#8230;the M85 fits into a totally different niche. Fun to build and fun to ride&#8230;yes.<br />
With the M85 it&#8217;s hard to find places to ride offroad but with my bike I have heaps of MTB tracks  to choose from these days.<br />
The M85 cannot be used on Mountainbike tracks because it cannot be pedaled.<br />
And some pedaling needs to be done on many parts of the tracks and motoring is illegal.<br />
On a recent ride I had to lift my bike (the one in this post) 20 times over fallen trees&#8230;hard work but possible while with anything even slightly heavier it would not have been possible.<br />
 28 kg/62 lbs is the absolute maximum one would want to pedal and lift over obstacles.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 12:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liked the other better
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http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/12/04/project-m85-freeride-motorcycle-mountain-bike/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liked the other better<br />
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<a href="http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/12/04/project-m85-freeride-motorcycle-mountain-bike/" rel="nofollow">http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/12/04/project-m85-freeride-motorcycle-mountain-bike/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 02:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi everybody...Al here...that&#039;s my bike. Would have replied sooner..been away...
 Thanks a lot for the great comments...appreciated.
Chris..that fender is hammered out of an old Alu number plate.
Houghmade...great bike you build...like that attention to detail..
AJ...didn&#039;t build it with selling it in mind...but might do, don&#039;t know yet.
Todd...build yours...it&#039;s fun..
Pete...I am a lightweight..the extra 10kg of the motor setup shouln&#039;t make any difference.
Paulinator...it&#039;s not about speed for me here...its as fast as the average road racing cyclist on the flat BUT as soon as we get to the hills it comes into its own.
Fenriq...actually i can get as much exercise with it as i like...going uphill i can either pedal assist a little or give it heaps..if i put some energy into it she just &#039;flys&#039; up the hill... great fun.
Tinman...yes that engine is no cheap chinese piece of s..t. Its also a 4 stroke: $500US.
Kim...comparing 1912 Pierce, 1923 Nimbus, etc. with my bike...huhu..too much.
WestOf Ben....epicyclic gears..they make them in 14 speed with the same range as MTB&#039;s with 3 chain rings at the front and 8 gears at the back...not cheap, and heavy.
And yes ..great to be able to change gears when at a stop..
Doorsonpatrol...that wasn&#039;t me in Christchurch 5 years ago.. but you are right about the cost of limited edition sale...8000-10000$NZ is 5800-7200$US and probably around what it would need to be, unfortunatly...unless you build it yourself.
Tim...read the post again..then apologise to everybody here because you are spoiling the fun...it says clearly that i turn the motor off for riding MTB tracks, same weight, same tires, same everything as MTB. And you need some glasses. 
Tom...they ARE leather shorts they are great for riding...i cut my motorcycle pants and glued the cut off onto my bike seat...made a toolbag...
Again...cheers everybody...have fun riding whatever it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everybody&#8230;Al here&#8230;that&#8217;s my bike. Would have replied sooner..been away&#8230;<br />
 Thanks a lot for the great comments&#8230;appreciated.<br />
Chris..that fender is hammered out of an old Alu number plate.<br />
Houghmade&#8230;great bike you build&#8230;like that attention to detail..<br />
AJ&#8230;didn&#8217;t build it with selling it in mind&#8230;but might do, don&#8217;t know yet.<br />
Todd&#8230;build yours&#8230;it&#8217;s fun..<br />
Pete&#8230;I am a lightweight..the extra 10kg of the motor setup shouln&#8217;t make any difference.<br />
Paulinator&#8230;it&#8217;s not about speed for me here&#8230;its as fast as the average road racing cyclist on the flat BUT as soon as we get to the hills it comes into its own.<br />
Fenriq&#8230;actually i can get as much exercise with it as i like&#8230;going uphill i can either pedal assist a little or give it heaps..if i put some energy into it she just &#8216;flys&#8217; up the hill&#8230; great fun.<br />
Tinman&#8230;yes that engine is no cheap chinese piece of s..t. Its also a 4 stroke: $500US.<br />
Kim&#8230;comparing 1912 Pierce, 1923 Nimbus, etc. with my bike&#8230;huhu..too much.<br />
WestOf Ben&#8230;.epicyclic gears..they make them in 14 speed with the same range as MTB&#8217;s with 3 chain rings at the front and 8 gears at the back&#8230;not cheap, and heavy.<br />
And yes ..great to be able to change gears when at a stop..<br />
Doorsonpatrol&#8230;that wasn&#8217;t me in Christchurch 5 years ago.. but you are right about the cost of limited edition sale&#8230;8000-10000$NZ is 5800-7200$US and probably around what it would need to be, unfortunatly&#8230;unless you build it yourself.<br />
Tim&#8230;read the post again..then apologise to everybody here because you are spoiling the fun&#8230;it says clearly that i turn the motor off for riding MTB tracks, same weight, same tires, same everything as MTB. And you need some glasses.<br />
Tom&#8230;they ARE leather shorts they are great for riding&#8230;i cut my motorcycle pants and glued the cut off onto my bike seat&#8230;made a toolbag&#8230;<br />
Again&#8230;cheers everybody&#8230;have fun riding whatever it is.</p>
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