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	<title>Comments on: Mission Motors Sets Bonneville Electric Speed Record at 150.059 mph with Production Prototype</title>
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		<title>By: Marshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kent, I believe the 60 mph record they beat was set by a bike whose weight and fairings were similar to the Mission One - in other words, in the same racing class.  They aren&#039;t trying to compete with streamliners.

...although I&#039;m curious how they&#039;d do if they swapped the Isle of Mann fairings for an enclosed teardrop shape and extended the wheelbase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kent, I believe the 60 mph record they beat was set by a bike whose weight and fairings were similar to the Mission One &#8211; in other words, in the same racing class.  They aren&#8217;t trying to compete with streamliners.</p>
<p>&#8230;although I&#8217;m curious how they&#8217;d do if they swapped the Isle of Mann fairings for an enclosed teardrop shape and extended the wheelbase.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Riches</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent Riches</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BS.... total BS and marketing crap.... these guys know my bike is the worlds fastest electric motorcycle and yet choose to disrespect me with their PR just so they can back up their BS marketing claims of 150mph for 150 mile range..... Yes I exceeded Mike Corbin’s 35-year-old record that these guys choose to ignore yet on some of their press releases they claim they beat some absurdly low 60mph record..... Total punks...
Kent Riches
www.eracebike.com
www.motorcyclebodywork.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BS&#8230;. total BS and marketing crap&#8230;. these guys know my bike is the worlds fastest electric motorcycle and yet choose to disrespect me with their PR just so they can back up their BS marketing claims of 150mph for 150 mile range&#8230;.. Yes I exceeded Mike Corbin’s 35-year-old record that these guys choose to ignore yet on some of their press releases they claim they beat some absurdly low 60mph record&#8230;.. Total punks&#8230;<br />
Kent Riches<br />
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		<title>By: todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 04:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still, it&#039;s impressive.  Consider that pabsyboots &#039;96 ZX-10 made around 118hp or about 100 at the rear wheel and ran a 149 mph average.  That means (assuming the aerodynamics of the two are similar) that the Mission One is also putting out 100hp at the rear wheel.  If the motor was, in fact, spinning at 15000 RPM it would only need 40 or so pound-feet of torque to have the same performance.  This is still current level 600 super sport performance, at least for top speed - and this is from an electric motor.  Acceleration would need to be timed to determine if it&#039;s any better without the gear advantage of torque multiplication.  

Sure people have gone faster but it takes a significantly lower amount of power to do 150 in a typical streamliner, around 25hp or so will do the trick.  Still, I guess I would be more inclined to buy a 25hp street electric since it would be lighter, less expensive, more efficient (greater range), and still do 100 mph if I ever felt like it. 

-todd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still, it&#8217;s impressive.  Consider that pabsyboots &#8217;96 ZX-10 made around 118hp or about 100 at the rear wheel and ran a 149 mph average.  That means (assuming the aerodynamics of the two are similar) that the Mission One is also putting out 100hp at the rear wheel.  If the motor was, in fact, spinning at 15000 RPM it would only need 40 or so pound-feet of torque to have the same performance.  This is still current level 600 super sport performance, at least for top speed &#8211; and this is from an electric motor.  Acceleration would need to be timed to determine if it&#8217;s any better without the gear advantage of torque multiplication.  </p>
<p>Sure people have gone faster but it takes a significantly lower amount of power to do 150 in a typical streamliner, around 25hp or so will do the trick.  Still, I guess I would be more inclined to buy a 25hp street electric since it would be lighter, less expensive, more efficient (greater range), and still do 100 mph if I ever felt like it. </p>
<p>-todd</p>
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		<title>By: Azzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Azzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 04:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike D. - the fact of the EV1 was that GM had a ton of cash into it, for a small fleet of cars. 

Think of ti this way, Honda has 100 hydrogen cars testing in CA right now. Those cars took (IIRC) 2 million to design and make. They only lease them because if they were to sell, it would cost $200,000+ for what is just an experimental commuter car. And in this country, like many others, you have to make parts and support with parts for at least 10 years after the car was produced. So to have the infrastructure to maintain, by law, they would of ended up selling those EV-1s for more than they were ever worth and probably more than the the folks leasing them ever could afford. 

Electric cars are cool, they&#039;ve been around since the 1800&#039;s (in fact the first world land speed record was set by 2 men racing the things in early the 1900&#039;s), but the material tech for batteries and a safe light structure is not there, and is just slowly becoming available and feasible today. 

The car you refer to was a testing ground for the upcoming Volt. our politicians do more things in our face every day that are cause for them to be thrown out by the ears, no need to search the forest behind the giant brothel for the kids drinking a few beers.

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As for the M1 bike... Cool!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike D. &#8211; the fact of the EV1 was that GM had a ton of cash into it, for a small fleet of cars. </p>
<p>Think of ti this way, Honda has 100 hydrogen cars testing in CA right now. Those cars took (IIRC) 2 million to design and make. They only lease them because if they were to sell, it would cost $200,000+ for what is just an experimental commuter car. And in this country, like many others, you have to make parts and support with parts for at least 10 years after the car was produced. So to have the infrastructure to maintain, by law, they would of ended up selling those EV-1s for more than they were ever worth and probably more than the the folks leasing them ever could afford. </p>
<p>Electric cars are cool, they&#8217;ve been around since the 1800&#8242;s (in fact the first world land speed record was set by 2 men racing the things in early the 1900&#8242;s), but the material tech for batteries and a safe light structure is not there, and is just slowly becoming available and feasible today. </p>
<p>The car you refer to was a testing ground for the upcoming Volt. our politicians do more things in our face every day that are cause for them to be thrown out by the ears, no need to search the forest behind the giant brothel for the kids drinking a few beers.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>As for the M1 bike&#8230; Cool!</p>
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		<title>By: frozen prairie</title>
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		<dc:creator>frozen prairie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 02:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, for one, enjoyed cycleguys technical posts. Thanks, and keep &#039;em coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, for one, enjoyed cycleguys technical posts. Thanks, and keep &#8216;em coming.</p>
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