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	<title>Comments on: Motorcycle Streamliners at Vintage Days</title>
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		<title>By: Andyj</title>
		<link>http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2009/07/27/motorcycle-streamliners-at-vintage-days/#comment-283611</link>
		<dc:creator>Andyj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe Gioielli,
No way would Mr. Vetter put an aircon in his draughty hyper mpg bike. It would take all 250cc&#039;s to power the air con! His goal is 100mpg doing 70mph into a 30mph wind while carrying four bags of groceries.

Todd:
A C5? His bike is made from a Honda 250 Scooter. Not small! - and it is bright yellow. For scale; The headlights are off a Prius. The Peraves unit is taller than a van.

Anyone who wants to fuss over taking a passenger. *Yawn*. Easy!
Reshape the front seat slightly near the hip. Build another seat 18&quot; behind the front one and fit pegs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Gioielli,<br />
No way would Mr. Vetter put an aircon in his draughty hyper mpg bike. It would take all 250cc&#8217;s to power the air con! His goal is 100mpg doing 70mph into a 30mph wind while carrying four bags of groceries.</p>
<p>Todd:<br />
A C5? His bike is made from a Honda 250 Scooter. Not small! &#8211; and it is bright yellow. For scale; The headlights are off a Prius. The Peraves unit is taller than a van.</p>
<p>Anyone who wants to fuss over taking a passenger. *Yawn*. Easy!<br />
Reshape the front seat slightly near the hip. Build another seat 18&#8243; behind the front one and fit pegs.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Gioielli</title>
		<link>http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2009/07/27/motorcycle-streamliners-at-vintage-days/#comment-265254</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Gioielli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 04:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is the shape of things to come. Here in the south you just cook under the sun and bake in the heat.  A streamliner would make an ac unit possiable. No more redlight heatstroke.

As for it bing unsafe, a &quot;cage&quot; will save some and kill others. Same as helmets and seatbelts. All you can do is play the odds.

This will be more a replacement for a car, than a motorcycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is the shape of things to come. Here in the south you just cook under the sun and bake in the heat.  A streamliner would make an ac unit possiable. No more redlight heatstroke.</p>
<p>As for it bing unsafe, a &#8220;cage&#8221; will save some and kill others. Same as helmets and seatbelts. All you can do is play the odds.</p>
<p>This will be more a replacement for a car, than a motorcycle.</p>
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		<title>By: DucatiGuy</title>
		<link>http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2009/07/27/motorcycle-streamliners-at-vintage-days/#comment-256431</link>
		<dc:creator>DucatiGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 23:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former motorcycle courier I&#039;m more aware than most of the need to re-engineer the motorcycle. The way I see it, the riding position was designed for people who previously rode horses, and it&#039;s never moved on from there. Even the best (mainstream) designs are dangerous, hard to control, uncomfortable, and hopelessly aerodynamically inefficient.

FF designs like those above are functionally great - the Ecomobile gets my vote in the comfort stakes, the Quasar (dated now) looks promising - but do they have to look so dorky? The fact is, the General Public don&#039;t buy their transport for practical reasons, otherwise why buy a Hummer? Or a (new) Fiat 500? 

What&#039;s required here is something like the combination of Italian design and American money and marketing that&#039;s been so good for Ducati lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former motorcycle courier I&#8217;m more aware than most of the need to re-engineer the motorcycle. The way I see it, the riding position was designed for people who previously rode horses, and it&#8217;s never moved on from there. Even the best (mainstream) designs are dangerous, hard to control, uncomfortable, and hopelessly aerodynamically inefficient.</p>
<p>FF designs like those above are functionally great &#8211; the Ecomobile gets my vote in the comfort stakes, the Quasar (dated now) looks promising &#8211; but do they have to look so dorky? The fact is, the General Public don&#8217;t buy their transport for practical reasons, otherwise why buy a Hummer? Or a (new) Fiat 500? </p>
<p>What&#8217;s required here is something like the combination of Italian design and American money and marketing that&#8217;s been so good for Ducati lately.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 19:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a square peg, round hole exercise</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a square peg, round hole exercise</p>
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		<title>By: marvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>marvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The high mileage scooter reminds me of the quasar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quasar_(motorcycle) while the ecomobile looks to me like something from the cover of popular mechanics from the fifties. In both cases I mean this as a very sincere compliment.  Peraves seem stuck in that we don&#039;t make many so they are expensive so we don&#039;t sell many trap. I would love one but for the cost I could have 2 or 3 other dream bikes. It seems that to own one I may have to find a crashed K100 a knackered fighter trainer plane and a whole lot of nous and skill behind the sofa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The high mileage scooter reminds me of the quasar <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quasar_(motorcycle)" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quasar_(motorcycle)</a> while the ecomobile looks to me like something from the cover of popular mechanics from the fifties. In both cases I mean this as a very sincere compliment.  Peraves seem stuck in that we don&#8217;t make many so they are expensive so we don&#8217;t sell many trap. I would love one but for the cost I could have 2 or 3 other dream bikes. It seems that to own one I may have to find a crashed K100 a knackered fighter trainer plane and a whole lot of nous and skill behind the sofa.</p>
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