Comments on: Falcon Motorcycles – Redesigned British Classics http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2009/06/10/falcon-motorcycles-redesigned-british-classics/ Motorcycle News for Positive People Fri, 25 May 2012 22:44:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Stephen Pate http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2009/06/10/falcon-motorcycles-redesigned-british-classics/#comment-280465 Stephen Pate Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:25:56 +0000 http://thekneeslider.com/?p=6315#comment-280465 Well... I gotta tell you... the internet is *apparently* for saying things that are so stupid or ignorant, that anyone sane would not say them anywhere else but thru anonymity of the web. This is apparently one of those places. No one knows how much they cost. 1000 hours... even 2000 hours is not an unusual of time on something like this. The market will not bear billing for all that time... so regardless, you know that people that do this make a lot less than what they should. If I billed straight actual time, most restorations would cost about $180,000 in labor alone... not to mention parts, etc. People don't pay that. Notice that you very rarely if ever see anyone actually capable of *doing* anything pipe up and say much about this stuff? It shocks me how people that call themselves 'motorcyclists' can be so grossly ignorant about anything involving the history of motorcycles...and then... openly show everyone how little they know ! I actually think Jesse said it best... "If you got the skills to build a bike at that level, good luck on your new shop". I wish you guys 'good luck'... now just shut up and show us. Well… I gotta tell you… the internet is *apparently* for saying things that are so stupid or ignorant, that anyone sane would not say them anywhere else but thru anonymity of the web. This is apparently one of those places. No one knows how much they cost. 1000 hours… even 2000 hours is not an unusual of time on something like this. The market will not bear billing for all that time… so regardless, you know that people that do this make a lot less than what they should. If I billed straight actual time, most restorations would cost about $180,000 in labor alone… not to mention parts, etc. People don’t pay that.

Notice that you very rarely if ever see anyone actually capable of *doing* anything pipe up and say much about this stuff? It shocks me how people that call themselves ‘motorcyclists’ can be so grossly ignorant about anything involving the history of motorcycles…and then… openly show everyone how little they know ! I actually think Jesse said it best… “If you got the skills to build a bike at that level, good luck on your new shop”.

I wish you guys ‘good luck’… now just shut up and show us.

]]> By: putra http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2009/06/10/falcon-motorcycles-redesigned-british-classics/#comment-246291 putra Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:24:42 +0000 http://thekneeslider.com/?p=6315#comment-246291 the old racing bike man!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the old racing bike man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: steve http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2009/06/10/falcon-motorcycles-redesigned-british-classics/#comment-246214 steve Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:45:29 +0000 http://thekneeslider.com/?p=6315#comment-246214 by last count I have 4 Triumphs and none will be restored. Did I ruin them? No, I had no complete bikes, only pieces rescued from salvage and brought back to life. This piece may well have started as pieces not a complete motorcycle so enjoy it as it is. Oh, and my distruction is on page 19 of the Jan. issue of Classic Bike. Long live the builders! by last count I have 4 Triumphs and none will be restored. Did I ruin them? No, I had no complete bikes, only pieces rescued from salvage and brought back to life. This piece may well have started as pieces not a complete motorcycle so enjoy it as it is. Oh, and my distruction is on page 19 of the Jan. issue of Classic Bike. Long live the builders!

]]> By: marvin http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2009/06/10/falcon-motorcycles-redesigned-british-classics/#comment-245740 marvin Mon, 15 Jun 2009 00:08:06 +0000 http://thekneeslider.com/?p=6315#comment-245740 I actually have some sympathy with Kenny and do like a nice restoration of bikes this old, unfortunately I can't define an age after which a bike becomes uncutupable to coin a word. Unfortunately most bikes I have modified have been in the "just before classic" category, this is when the bikes a cheapest, parts are still available and tuning advise is plentiful. In my time I have modded old Brit stuff, Z's and a katona 1000 among others . I think in about 60% of the time I did nothing more than destroy the resale value of the bike but it was my resale value to destroy, and I either got the bike I wanted or learned something. My latest project was making a SRX 600 even more cafe racer/flat tracker/steam punk, but I am sure that at 22 years old there will be people who think I have committed sacrilege on an "old gent of the road". There is something that sits with me a little bit uncomfortably about chopping a Brough Superior or Vincent but as I said before there is no way everyone will agree on "the age above which only riding and restorations is possible". Talking to friends of differing ages the rule seems to be ... If your dad rode it it is precious and must be lovingly restored if it was your first big bike that is the age at which everything newer is fair game. with my group of friends this ranges from early Triumph Speed Twins to KR1Ss. I don't think there is really any age at which a bike become sacrosanct but if some one is going to chop vintage bikes I am glad that it is done with the skill and sympathy shown by falcon I actually have some sympathy with Kenny and do like a nice restoration of bikes this old, unfortunately I can’t define an age after which a bike becomes uncutupable to coin a word. Unfortunately most bikes I have modified have been in the “just before classic” category, this is when the bikes a cheapest, parts are still available and tuning advise is plentiful. In my time I have modded old Brit stuff, Z’s and a katona 1000 among others . I think in about 60% of the time I did nothing more than destroy the resale value of the bike but it was my resale value to destroy, and I either got the bike I wanted or learned something. My latest project was making a SRX 600 even more cafe racer/flat tracker/steam punk, but I am sure that at 22 years old there will be people who think I have committed sacrilege on an “old gent of the road”. There is something that sits with me a little bit uncomfortably about chopping a Brough Superior or Vincent but as I said before there is no way everyone will agree on “the age above which only riding and restorations is possible”. Talking to friends of differing ages the rule seems to be … If your dad rode it it is precious and must be lovingly restored if it was your first big bike that is the age at which everything newer is fair game. with my group of friends this ranges from early Triumph Speed Twins to KR1Ss. I don’t think there is really any age at which a bike become sacrosanct but if some one is going to chop vintage bikes I am glad that it is done with the skill and sympathy shown by falcon

]]> By: ScotDuke http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2009/06/10/falcon-motorcycles-redesigned-british-classics/#comment-245688 ScotDuke Sun, 14 Jun 2009 17:18:45 +0000 http://thekneeslider.com/?p=6315#comment-245688 Point taken kneeslider but I think this sums up my point pretty well: "I don’t have any chips on my shoulder but I know about the limitations of 1950s brakes and if it was my bike I’d want something better." Point taken kneeslider but I think this sums up my point pretty well: “I don’t have any chips on my shoulder but I know about the limitations of 1950s brakes and if it was my bike I’d want something better.”

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