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	<title>Comments on: Roehr 1250sc Set for March 2009 Delivery</title>
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		<title>By: Ek</title>
		<link>http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2008/12/22/roehr-1250sc-set-for-march-2009-delivery/#comment-193696</link>
		<dc:creator>Ek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jk
Not just MV Agusta but a MV Agusta without Tamburini

And the Roehr&#039;s engine was designed by Porsche. But you can plaster &quot;Made In America&quot; over it, all you want</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jk<br />
Not just MV Agusta but a MV Agusta without Tamburini</p>
<p>And the Roehr&#8217;s engine was designed by Porsche. But you can plaster &#8220;Made In America&#8221; over it, all you want</p>
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		<title>By: Jk</title>
		<link>http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2008/12/22/roehr-1250sc-set-for-march-2009-delivery/#comment-193229</link>
		<dc:creator>Jk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, niche or not America needs a new Identity. We are lazy innovators. MV? Why? We can design F22&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, niche or not America needs a new Identity. We are lazy innovators. MV? Why? We can design F22&#8242;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2008/12/22/roehr-1250sc-set-for-march-2009-delivery/#comment-192448</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True success will be mass production . Good Luck .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True success will be mass production . Good Luck .</p>
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		<title>By: Mark L.</title>
		<link>http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2008/12/22/roehr-1250sc-set-for-march-2009-delivery/#comment-191800</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 03:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an engineer that has been involved with Roehr Motorcycles since way back when, and being one of a short list of people who have ridden the 1250sc, I can shed some light on some of the issues and questions that have been brought up here.

Service: The engine is internally stock. Serviceable by any HD dealer. Roehr provides ALL documentation needed for service by your local dealer, under warranty from Roehr, no less.

CARB: The bike has satisfactorily completed initial EPA testing, and is doing the EPA mileage testing right now. It has passed everything 100% with absolutely no changes to anything. California ARB is met, and is critical due to the high-end sport bike market there. Final certification is due to be issued at the end of the mileage testing. I think in late January.

Performance: I have not ridden a Ducati 1098 of any version, but I can tell you that is is quite notably quicker and faster than a 2007 GSXR1000, at least up to about 150 mph. (short road/fear factor limited) and at 432 lbs. on a scale with some gas in it, the weight is comparable. I would like to see a Ducati 1098 on the scale as well, as I doubt that it is 60 lbs. lighter in the real world.

HP: This bike actually makes 169 hp and 99 ft. lbs. at the wheel, limited to 8 lbs. of boost. On the mythical crankshaft (engine) dyno, about 184 hp &amp; 113 ft lbs. 

That power level is redline/RPM enforced at 9,100 RPM. for the health and well being of the connecting rods. (Warranty issues prevent more boost/power)

This motor with good aftermarket rods and a reprogrammed ECU is capable of WAY over 200hp at the rear wheel. (I would LOVE to tell you what it made at 10,500 RPM one time it was over-revved by &quot;accident!&quot;)

The torque &quot;curve&quot; is as flat as Nebraska, and about as wide. Think Honda VFR800 Interceptor flat, with Hayabusa level power at the wheel.

The 1250sc was designed by Walter out of his passion to do things his own way, and because of his desire to have &quot;Made in America&quot; on the gas tank. He did this himself, and where we have all dreamed and schemed about the &quot;I&#039;d like to do this or that&quot;, Walter actually DID IT!

If he could build them for $ 9,000, he would. It has NEVER been about the money. That is simply an effect of the level of the hardware involved. 

Due to the cost, it&#039;s not for everyone, but it&#039;s real, and hopefully it will find a home with about 50 lucky people.

Fade into obscurity? No. Walter/Roehr Motorcycles has been around for 10+ years doing this, AND I have seen the preliminary designs for the next Roehr, and it is COOL. (sorry Walter, my bad!)

In summary, it is a stunningly beautiful bike that is fast, powerful, unique, reliable, AND EPA and DOT road legal in all 50 states. These facts alone make it a stunning achievement.

Mark L.

PS- The ebay store offers a secure way to advertise and sell bikes with both buyer and seller protection. Go to the Roehr motorcycles web site for full specs. or to arrange a test ride etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an engineer that has been involved with Roehr Motorcycles since way back when, and being one of a short list of people who have ridden the 1250sc, I can shed some light on some of the issues and questions that have been brought up here.</p>
<p>Service: The engine is internally stock. Serviceable by any HD dealer. Roehr provides ALL documentation needed for service by your local dealer, under warranty from Roehr, no less.</p>
<p>CARB: The bike has satisfactorily completed initial EPA testing, and is doing the EPA mileage testing right now. It has passed everything 100% with absolutely no changes to anything. California ARB is met, and is critical due to the high-end sport bike market there. Final certification is due to be issued at the end of the mileage testing. I think in late January.</p>
<p>Performance: I have not ridden a Ducati 1098 of any version, but I can tell you that is is quite notably quicker and faster than a 2007 GSXR1000, at least up to about 150 mph. (short road/fear factor limited) and at 432 lbs. on a scale with some gas in it, the weight is comparable. I would like to see a Ducati 1098 on the scale as well, as I doubt that it is 60 lbs. lighter in the real world.</p>
<p>HP: This bike actually makes 169 hp and 99 ft. lbs. at the wheel, limited to 8 lbs. of boost. On the mythical crankshaft (engine) dyno, about 184 hp &amp; 113 ft lbs. </p>
<p>That power level is redline/RPM enforced at 9,100 RPM. for the health and well being of the connecting rods. (Warranty issues prevent more boost/power)</p>
<p>This motor with good aftermarket rods and a reprogrammed ECU is capable of WAY over 200hp at the rear wheel. (I would LOVE to tell you what it made at 10,500 RPM one time it was over-revved by &#8220;accident!&#8221;)</p>
<p>The torque &#8220;curve&#8221; is as flat as Nebraska, and about as wide. Think Honda VFR800 Interceptor flat, with Hayabusa level power at the wheel.</p>
<p>The 1250sc was designed by Walter out of his passion to do things his own way, and because of his desire to have &#8220;Made in America&#8221; on the gas tank. He did this himself, and where we have all dreamed and schemed about the &#8220;I&#8217;d like to do this or that&#8221;, Walter actually DID IT!</p>
<p>If he could build them for $ 9,000, he would. It has NEVER been about the money. That is simply an effect of the level of the hardware involved. </p>
<p>Due to the cost, it&#8217;s not for everyone, but it&#8217;s real, and hopefully it will find a home with about 50 lucky people.</p>
<p>Fade into obscurity? No. Walter/Roehr Motorcycles has been around for 10+ years doing this, AND I have seen the preliminary designs for the next Roehr, and it is COOL. (sorry Walter, my bad!)</p>
<p>In summary, it is a stunningly beautiful bike that is fast, powerful, unique, reliable, AND EPA and DOT road legal in all 50 states. These facts alone make it a stunning achievement.</p>
<p>Mark L.</p>
<p>PS- The ebay store offers a secure way to advertise and sell bikes with both buyer and seller protection. Go to the Roehr motorcycles web site for full specs. or to arrange a test ride etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Den</title>
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		<dc:creator>Den</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Wonder how much cash they could of saved if they told California to go stuff itself.

Hmmmmm… If more companies did that, maybe the laws would change after you couldn&#039;t find any bikes or cars to get over there.&quot;

The whole point is that more companies should be trying to fit in with CARB, that way costs will come down and more people will be getting more environmentally friendly vehicles.

This is a good thing. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Wonder how much cash they could of saved if they told California to go stuff itself.</p>
<p>Hmmmmm… If more companies did that, maybe the laws would change after you couldn&#8217;t find any bikes or cars to get over there.&#8221;</p>
<p>The whole point is that more companies should be trying to fit in with CARB, that way costs will come down and more people will be getting more environmentally friendly vehicles.</p>
<p>This is a good thing.</p>
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