Back to the original subject, yes, the new CB was vastlt better bike than the XL – yes, I’ve worked on both. And ridden both. And if I ever want to ride an original sandcast CB (or H2, Z1, MachIII, etc…), I’l stop by a certain buddy’s house.

78K, you really sound like a kid who just bought a CB project for dirt cheap (a nice way to go) and still haven’t ridden it yet. Looking down your nose at bikes you know absolutely nothing about won’t make it more desirable or you any smarter. In fact, everything you’ve said sounds like you just pulled it off some internet forum rather than experience.

I still peruse the local Craigslist ads for a cheap SOHC CB750F or earlier XS650 (before they got cruisified). They make killer cheap “cafe racers”. They even look great when done right. But they will never be “better” to very many people besides the ones who happen to like that sort of thing. Anybody who lives by the “My bike is cooler/smarter/faster/badder than yours” is bound to be a sore loser sooner rather than later. And if it is a sohc CB750, well, you aren’t reaching very far.

If you enjoy your CB (assuming you actually ride it), then share what you like about it, not what you dislike about Harley cliches you’ve heard. If you can’t think of what is so good about them without comparing them to Harleys, then just how good are they?

You are making enugh false assumptions to fill a book.

That Four cylinder buzz can’t be cured with carb sync. Yes, I know how to do that. I also know how to rev an engine. Otherwise, I woud have never enjoyed my then brand new RZ350. More on the subject at the end….

“whupping” is for little boys on the street. Grow up. If you are fast, prove it on the track. Otherwise, well, yawn……..

The GSXR would have been a killer track toy – if there was a track closer than 8 hours away. Yes, it was fun to do, say, 60, drop it into 2nd, pin the throttle and dump the clutch, and look down while wheelying past 90 or whatever it was. But it gets old fast.

You still don’t know why I ever rode harleys. One clue – there’s nothing like the look on some squid’s face when you beat his UJSB with one. Hint: mine generally weren’t cruisers. Was the AC Cobra a pickup truck since it had a similar engine? NO. And neither is a sportbike that happens to have a Harley engine. What a bike looks like has nothing to do with how it functions.

Get over your immature notion that one’s chosen bike makes you a smarter/better/cooler rider. Fours do a lot of things well and a lot of things poorly. Same with twins. Oh yes – my twins spent most of their time bumping up to their rev limiters – they were “peakier” than my GSXR.

As for no market for a 750, that is because there are guys out there that need to compensate and think that to be a man, you need 1300+ cc engines. Sad thing is virtually ANY 750 will whip any cruiser v2. Even the magna will beat most cruiser. It is a v4 so that probably explains it.

Most people though are idiots about 4 cyl bikes. They think it can be run like a twin and that is not so. 4cyl bikes LOVE high rpms. Their power doesnt really pour on till 4grand, where most cruisers are petering out. now I cant lump just hd in this. most cruisers are poor speed performs and poor handlers. Hd just happens to usually be the worst offender, for the cost. Funny thing is that a stock hd is quiet and fairly reliable, it is all the crap some people hang from them cause they think that is the image they have to have.

That gixxer was better than any hd except on comfort. That would be a fact. Just cause you cant use what it has to offer does not mean it is no better, just means you have no use for it.
the busa is better than my ride, but I do not want one as I would never use everything it has to offer. I still know it is light years ahead of my ride though.

Your ex500 would probably corner tighter but I doubt it would be faster or accel faster. I bet you have never been on a 69cb have you? It is considered by most cb lovers to be the high water mark, yet my k8 in stock trim and weighing quite a bit more, is virtually as fast. the F3 is faster. The tune down started in 71 and was at its worst in 74. It got better with the F in 75 but the K5/6 were still somewhat dogs. the 77/78 got a reworked F motor with more power and a better clutch.

You feather the clutch at 7000 rpm for about 40 feet and in a couple seconds are pulling over 60 in second gear and you are not even redlining yet.
I have ridden a ex 500 and it will not do that.

If you are happy on an hd or cruisers in general, that is fine but that that does not make them the best. Just the best for you.
Hd is going to be hurt soon though. Just watch. They are relying on their marketing to build an image and a lot of people do bite, but look in your paper at how many are coming up for sale. I can look in my paper and see more hd for sale than all other bikes together.

I do not feel it is all hd fault though. hd riders are messed up. Some are still haters of the evo engine. Most do not consider the vrod(hds only fast bike) to BE an hd. They are TOO concerned about tradition and nothing changing that it may hurt the company in the long run.
Maybe that is why hd bought MV out.