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	<title>Comments on: Where are the Factory Street Trackers?</title>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alright Honda kinda tried this back in the 1980&#039;s and got the right idea but couldnt pull it all the way off with the Honda Ascot FT500.  I own one of them now that im building into a streetracker, and its funny if you look at that and then that FTR223 on the honda link up there, they look an awful lot alike.

They made the ascot for that purpose, ft stands for flat track, and ascot is a famous flat track in California
-Adam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright Honda kinda tried this back in the 1980&#8217;s and got the right idea but couldnt pull it all the way off with the Honda Ascot FT500.  I own one of them now that im building into a streetracker, and its funny if you look at that and then that FTR223 on the honda link up there, they look an awful lot alike.</p>
<p>They made the ascot for that purpose, ft stands for flat track, and ascot is a famous flat track in California<br />
-Adam</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>would love it if someone made a stret version of Richard Pollacks Bmw 800 or a 650 single street tracker !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>would love it if someone made a stret version of Richard Pollacks Bmw 800 or a 650 single street tracker !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: B. Case</title>
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		<dc:creator>B. Case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting, Richard. nice work too...</description>
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		<title>By: Richard Pollock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Pollock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I asked the &quot;Wigs&quot; at Harley if they planned to ever offer a &quot;Standard&quot; or Streetracker type bike? Their reply was, &quot;Why? We sell everything we can produce already!&quot;

Then, with regards to the Triumph of America project, I really thought they would consider a version of that in some modified for production sort of way. Never heard another word about it. To me, Triumph is synonomis with Streetrackers. Yet they come out with that &quot;Scrambler&quot; thing with makes me want to turn away. I almost laugh when I look at it. When they&#039;re ready, I&#039;m ready.

The dowside of the streettracker thing is the cost to build one right. Buying a used race bike with a &quot;History&quot; is very romantic, but as I&#039;ve bought dozens of used race bikes, there is nothing more worthless than a used up racebike. Further, although flattrack racing is a lot more technical that it appears on the surface, your basic racer is more concerned with getting to the track and riding than with precision bike building. Now pass that bike from owner to owner and you end up with a worn out peice of hardware!

On the cost of building one, most of the components are custom made or available from suppliers who manufacture very limited numbers of triple clamps, hubs, tanks, seats, pipes, etc.. You end up with  bikes costing in the $25K plus range. For a builder, it&#039;s the same amount of work to build from new, trick parts as it is with used up junk. So say you end up with a bike that costs $10K instead of $25. The way I look at that and hope the average buyer does too, is that I could buy a new R-1 for $10K(or so), so this $10K streettracker better be at least as good, not some used up old race bike with used up &quot;Namebrand&quot; Vintage race parts. What happens is, I end up looking at each part and saying this or that needs to be better and on and on until you get done and the price has risen accordingly.

From the business standpoint, in order to mass produce a Streettracker model, it has to be done by a manufacturer with access to OEM suppliers like Bridgestone, Showa, Nippon Seiki etc. Also, a cheap way an OEM could do it is by building a &quot;Parts bin Special&quot; ala Yamaha Radian. A bunch of parts that go to completely different models that could be combined with their own frame  and simple body work. Why the Hell Triumph doesn&#039;t want to do this, I have no idea. Maybe I should fly to England and bang on the door! They must be sleeping in there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I asked the &#8220;Wigs&#8221; at Harley if they planned to ever offer a &#8220;Standard&#8221; or Streetracker type bike? Their reply was, &#8220;Why? We sell everything we can produce already!&#8221;</p>
<p>Then, with regards to the Triumph of America project, I really thought they would consider a version of that in some modified for production sort of way. Never heard another word about it. To me, Triumph is synonomis with Streetrackers. Yet they come out with that &#8220;Scrambler&#8221; thing with makes me want to turn away. I almost laugh when I look at it. When they&#8217;re ready, I&#8217;m ready.</p>
<p>The dowside of the streettracker thing is the cost to build one right. Buying a used race bike with a &#8220;History&#8221; is very romantic, but as I&#8217;ve bought dozens of used race bikes, there is nothing more worthless than a used up racebike. Further, although flattrack racing is a lot more technical that it appears on the surface, your basic racer is more concerned with getting to the track and riding than with precision bike building. Now pass that bike from owner to owner and you end up with a worn out peice of hardware!</p>
<p>On the cost of building one, most of the components are custom made or available from suppliers who manufacture very limited numbers of triple clamps, hubs, tanks, seats, pipes, etc.. You end up with  bikes costing in the $25K plus range. For a builder, it&#8217;s the same amount of work to build from new, trick parts as it is with used up junk. So say you end up with a bike that costs $10K instead of $25. The way I look at that and hope the average buyer does too, is that I could buy a new R-1 for $10K(or so), so this $10K streettracker better be at least as good, not some used up old race bike with used up &#8220;Namebrand&#8221; Vintage race parts. What happens is, I end up looking at each part and saying this or that needs to be better and on and on until you get done and the price has risen accordingly.</p>
<p>From the business standpoint, in order to mass produce a Streettracker model, it has to be done by a manufacturer with access to OEM suppliers like Bridgestone, Showa, Nippon Seiki etc. Also, a cheap way an OEM could do it is by building a &#8220;Parts bin Special&#8221; ala Yamaha Radian. A bunch of parts that go to completely different models that could be combined with their own frame  and simple body work. Why the Hell Triumph doesn&#8217;t want to do this, I have no idea. Maybe I should fly to England and bang on the door! They must be sleeping in there!</p>
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		<title>By: davidabl</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidabl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 02:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looked at the Mule site for a few minutes, couldn&#039;t seem to
find out what the bike would cost me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looked at the Mule site for a few minutes, couldn&#8217;t seem to<br />
find out what the bike would cost me!</p>
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