Comments on: Collectible Motorcycles – Intentional or Accidental? http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2008/01/30/collectible-motorcycles-intentional-or-accidental/ Motorcycle News for Positive People Fri, 25 May 2012 03:08:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Dennis http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2008/01/30/collectible-motorcycles-intentional-or-accidental/#comment-269303 Dennis Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:20:56 +0000 http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2008/01/30/collectible-motorcycles-intentional-or-accidental/#comment-269303 What about Excelsior Hendersons. They were only produced for 2 years and less than 2000 total made. For the time they were one of the most technically advanced V-Twin cruisers. 4 valves per cylinder, chain driven dual overhead cam, fuel injection. What about Excelsior Hendersons. They were only produced for 2 years and less than 2000 total made. For the time they were one of the most technically advanced V-Twin cruisers. 4 valves per cylinder, chain driven dual overhead cam, fuel injection.

]]> By: Glenn http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2008/01/30/collectible-motorcycles-intentional-or-accidental/#comment-232207 Glenn Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:40:01 +0000 http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2008/01/30/collectible-motorcycles-intentional-or-accidental/#comment-232207 Regarding a future collectable, what do all think of the new Harley XR1200? It caught my eye as I always thought Harley should connect with their racing past and tie into the naked, blacked-out modern stuff. It's different from their other chrome-laden tanks and may not sell to the usual Harley type eh? Reminds me of a Harley 1200 Cafe Racer that didn't sell much in the 70's that is now desirable. Also, I own a 1975 CB750F Super Sport, the first year of the "F" that I hope will become collectable and I ride as a sometimes commuter and parts-run bike. Regarding a future collectable, what do all think of the new Harley XR1200? It caught my eye as I always thought Harley should connect with their racing past and tie into the naked, blacked-out modern stuff. It’s different from their other chrome-laden tanks and may not sell to the usual Harley type eh? Reminds me of a Harley 1200 Cafe Racer that didn’t sell much in the 70′s that is now desirable. Also, I own a 1975 CB750F Super Sport, the first year of the “F” that I hope will become collectable and I ride as a sometimes commuter and parts-run bike.

]]> By: hoyt http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2008/01/30/collectible-motorcycles-intentional-or-accidental/#comment-114572 hoyt Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:14:18 +0000 http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2008/01/30/collectible-motorcycles-intentional-or-accidental/#comment-114572 Hey Paul - my comment missed much of the point of the post: highly prized, Big Dollar auction prices on the collector's market. My thought was focused on the question at the end of the post....thinking about it from a more personal collection as opposed to the public collector's market. i.e. What do people value in their own collection, regardless of the auctions?....if enough people have the same likes, then the public collector's market kicks in & naturally drives the prices up. If there isn't a huge common interest, and the bike is still cool, then the collector's seem to fall into an enthusiast category with a somewhat of a cult bike status....no negative conotations to that in my book. The Guzzi V11 Sport comes to mind. I wish I could have bought 2 of them when I bought mine...store the other one away, and pull it out brand new 35 years later. That bike was only built for 4 years or so. Hey Paul – my comment missed much of the point of the post: highly prized, Big Dollar auction prices on the collector’s market.

My thought was focused on the question at the end of the post….thinking about it from a more personal collection as opposed to the public collector’s market.

i.e. What do people value in their own collection, regardless of the auctions?….if enough people have the same likes, then the public collector’s market kicks in & naturally drives the prices up.

If there isn’t a huge common interest, and the bike is still cool, then the collector’s seem to fall into an enthusiast category with a somewhat of a cult bike status….no negative conotations to that in my book.

The Guzzi V11 Sport comes to mind. I wish I could have bought 2 of them when I bought mine…store the other one away, and pull it out brand new 35 years later. That bike was only built for 4 years or so.

]]> By: Nicolas http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2008/01/30/collectible-motorcycles-intentional-or-accidental/#comment-114552 Nicolas Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:53:28 +0000 http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2008/01/30/collectible-motorcycles-intentional-or-accidental/#comment-114552 What about the "groundbreaking" models, such as ... - yamaha XT500, which invented the trailbike - yamaha Vmax, first and unique of it's own - Suzuki GSXR, first accessible supersport (or the yam R1 to be the first to break the 1hp/kg barrier) - Ducati Monster for the look - honda CB500, unbreakable stuff that gave millions of riders their motorcycle license (in Europe) - Kawasaki Z900 / Honda CB750 for killing the english motorcycle industry and bringing performance and reliability on the same bike - Kawa 750 mach1 for it's reputation being a widow maker - Honda Goldwing - BMW flat twins for being a performing bike with a lawnmower noise, and for all the cops using it ;-) - Harley Davidson Sporster or other, for moving so many rednecks or midlife-crisis men around the world (sorry for the older Vincent BlackSomething and other BSA Goldstar, not my generation ...) Even if it has been sold millions of these bikes, an original bonestock one ("dans son jus") would have the legitimacy of a bike that has brought something to the market. My personal discutable choice ... What about the “groundbreaking” models, such as …
- yamaha XT500, which invented the trailbike
- yamaha Vmax, first and unique of it’s own
- Suzuki GSXR, first accessible supersport (or the yam R1 to be the first to break the 1hp/kg barrier)
- Ducati Monster for the look
- honda CB500, unbreakable stuff that gave millions of riders their motorcycle license (in Europe)
- Kawasaki Z900 / Honda CB750 for killing the english motorcycle industry and bringing performance and reliability on the same bike
- Kawa 750 mach1 for it’s reputation being a widow maker
- Honda Goldwing
- BMW flat twins for being a performing bike with a lawnmower noise, and for all the cops using it ;-)
- Harley Davidson Sporster or other, for moving so many rednecks or midlife-crisis men around the world

(sorry for the older Vincent BlackSomething and other BSA Goldstar, not my generation …)

Even if it has been sold millions of these bikes, an original bonestock one (“dans son jus”) would have the legitimacy of a bike that has brought something to the market.

My personal discutable choice …

]]> By: Walt http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2008/01/30/collectible-motorcycles-intentional-or-accidental/#comment-114540 Walt Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:17:29 +0000 http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2008/01/30/collectible-motorcycles-intentional-or-accidental/#comment-114540 The proliferation of new models makes it hard for me to pick a future collectible. Many of the most attractive bikes of the past had performance cred: XLCH, T120, Atlas, Spitfire, Commando, CB750, Thruxton, Crocker, Black Shadow. There's less interest in cooking models. Today high performance sport bikes in two or three sizes are available from any of the Japanese makers. Common as dirt, but not nearly as long lasting. It will take an iconic performance machine like the Hayabusa to stand out from this crowd in the future. I do sometimes wonder about the twin-headlight Triumph Speed Triple. Carries some hooligan cred as a streetfighter. It's not really rare, but unlike the new Bonneville it's not a nostalgia bike. And what about the Ducati Monsters? Great looking bikes. Too popular? The proliferation of new models makes it hard for me to pick a future collectible. Many of the most attractive bikes of the past had performance cred: XLCH, T120, Atlas, Spitfire, Commando, CB750, Thruxton, Crocker, Black Shadow. There’s less interest in cooking models.

Today high performance sport bikes in two or three sizes are available from any of the Japanese makers. Common as dirt, but not nearly as long lasting. It will take an iconic performance machine like the Hayabusa to stand out from this crowd in the future.

I do sometimes wonder about the twin-headlight Triumph Speed Triple. Carries some hooligan cred as a streetfighter. It’s not really rare, but unlike the new Bonneville it’s not a nostalgia bike. And what about the Ducati Monsters? Great looking bikes. Too popular?

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