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	<title>Comments on: Project M85 &#8211; Freeride Motorcycle Mountain Bike</title>
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		<title>By: keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this thing looks insanely cool i would buy this in a heart beat</description>
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		<title>By: M.Naeem Zahid</title>
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		<dc:creator>M.Naeem Zahid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 05:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About 11 years ago i thought of doing the same but Laws here did not permit me for doing so. I made an electric version but being a middle class Novoice will very little experience and very little budget i end up making something which is not an offroad stuff but a road electric bike. seeing this bike it seemed like my dream comming true. I will i don&#039;t know how but i will some day make a very light dirt bike for stunts and stuff. I also think of making an ATV with same features. I wish you all very much good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About 11 years ago i thought of doing the same but Laws here did not permit me for doing so. I made an electric version but being a middle class Novoice will very little experience and very little budget i end up making something which is not an offroad stuff but a road electric bike. seeing this bike it seemed like my dream comming true. I will i don&#8217;t know how but i will some day make a very light dirt bike for stunts and stuff. I also think of making an ATV with same features. I wish you all very much good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: svejkovat</title>
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		<dc:creator>svejkovat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 20:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The frustration is excruciating.   The concept is exciting, but some of the &quot;what&#039;s the point:&quot; tenor of the comments is valid.  Just what niche does it address?  It does nothing that a small enduro cannot do. 

 I&#039;ve been researching methods of motorizing a modern mountainbike/roadbike now for a couple of months.  I&#039;m astonished that the &#039;niche&#039; that I&#039;m aiming for is all but ignored in the gasoline modified  bike forums (the electric bike forums seem a bit more forward thinking).   Most motorbicycles are just cheap noisy 2 cycles belted to the rear wheel of &#039;cruiser&#039; style bikes. 

A true moped is what I&#039;m aiming for.   A quiet little 35cc honda four stroke powering the crankset via a single speed transmission.   The option to pedal completely independant of the motor transmission when motor is off.   Some combination of freewheels on the crank or between the motor transmission and the crankset is req&#039;d for this.   In order to start the motor via pedals with this arrangement,  a compact lightweight shaft mounted manual clutch is necessary.  There are no production versions of EITHER of those available -- anywhere.   The design of motor driven bicycles has not progressed a bit in seventy years!    This, from 1937....
http://www.bugattirevue.com/revue29/t72.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The frustration is excruciating.   The concept is exciting, but some of the &#8220;what&#8217;s the point:&#8221; tenor of the comments is valid.  Just what niche does it address?  It does nothing that a small enduro cannot do. </p>
<p> I&#8217;ve been researching methods of motorizing a modern mountainbike/roadbike now for a couple of months.  I&#8217;m astonished that the &#8216;niche&#8217; that I&#8217;m aiming for is all but ignored in the gasoline modified  bike forums (the electric bike forums seem a bit more forward thinking).   Most motorbicycles are just cheap noisy 2 cycles belted to the rear wheel of &#8216;cruiser&#8217; style bikes. </p>
<p>A true moped is what I&#8217;m aiming for.   A quiet little 35cc honda four stroke powering the crankset via a single speed transmission.   The option to pedal completely independant of the motor transmission when motor is off.   Some combination of freewheels on the crank or between the motor transmission and the crankset is req&#8217;d for this.   In order to start the motor via pedals with this arrangement,  a compact lightweight shaft mounted manual clutch is necessary.  There are no production versions of EITHER of those available &#8212; anywhere.   The design of motor driven bicycles has not progressed a bit in seventy years!    This, from 1937&#8230;.<br />
<a href="http://www.bugattirevue.com/revue29/t72.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.bugattirevue.com/revue29/t72.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: jpgemi</title>
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		<dc:creator>jpgemi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 01:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think is a very creative product and sure fun to ride.
It will sure catch an eye if well promoted.
Don´t worry about criticism, i guess some people will never have an oportunity to create,develop,finish,test/improve and market an own idea or project, despite their University degree.
Congratulations
Joan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think is a very creative product and sure fun to ride.<br />
It will sure catch an eye if well promoted.<br />
Don´t worry about criticism, i guess some people will never have an oportunity to create,develop,finish,test/improve and market an own idea or project, despite their University degree.<br />
Congratulations<br />
Joan</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse McCollum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse McCollum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 01:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Todd(if he ever comes back here)


You might be an engineer but you have absolutely no idea what you&#039;re talking about when it comes to current mountain bike technology. the calipers are more than up to the work, with the new Saint 4-pots and Hope still makes the M6, and there are now 9 inch oversized rotors. Properly built wheels would have no problem lasting under the weight of this thing for the typical rider. At my shop we currently have a 6 foot 8 inch 260lbs guy riding a 45lbs downhill bike on a set of wheels I built up with no problems. If you actually knew motorcycles you would be able to clearly see a lot more has been done that just change the color and wheel size... 

I sense a bit of jealousy. 

-Jesse</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Todd(if he ever comes back here)</p>
<p>You might be an engineer but you have absolutely no idea what you&#8217;re talking about when it comes to current mountain bike technology. the calipers are more than up to the work, with the new Saint 4-pots and Hope still makes the M6, and there are now 9 inch oversized rotors. Properly built wheels would have no problem lasting under the weight of this thing for the typical rider. At my shop we currently have a 6 foot 8 inch 260lbs guy riding a 45lbs downhill bike on a set of wheels I built up with no problems. If you actually knew motorcycles you would be able to clearly see a lot more has been done that just change the color and wheel size&#8230; </p>
<p>I sense a bit of jealousy. </p>
<p>-Jesse</p>
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