Comments on: Neander Turbo Diesel Motorcycle is Introduced http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/09/27/neander-turbo-diesel-motorcycle-is-introduced/ Motorcycle News for Positive People Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:34:05 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Cortonj http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/09/27/neander-turbo-diesel-motorcycle-is-introduced/comment-page-1/#comment-94138 Cortonj Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:55:56 +0000 http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/09/27/neander-turbo-diesel-motorcycle-is-introduced/#comment-94138 Go hybrid with the engine and stuff it into a Lotus Elise. Check that; just install it in the Elise and run! Great Bike. I've been tracking it for couple of years in development, yet am very surprised at the price. Initially, $85k -- steep to begin with, and now $133k?! Has the dollar fallen THAT much against the Euro? There's the early adopters, the early majority, the late majority, and the laggards. In this story of adopting technology, I think the price/product mix is off the mark. How many early adopters with the money to spend on this bike -- regardless of how great it is -- will pony up for the pleasure? In my (mildly limited) estimation, this bike doesn't have the pedigree, styling, historical importance, technological impact, or industry buzz to find the buyers at $133,000.00. The technology MIGHT be closest to securing a buyer, but do the monied technophiles want choppers? Do the purely monied want the technology? Would a Harley owner want to sacrifice $133k worth of V-Twin HD's for this? There will be some, but I'm sorry; it's difficult to imagine this bike ever becoming the root of popular diesel motorcycling. Neander seems to be selling the motorcycling equivalent of a hot-rodded diesel Veyron; a tangential answer to the markets' low priority question. But look, that's just my opinion -- I'd be very happy to hear anyone else's thoughts! JC Go hybrid with the engine and stuff it into a Lotus Elise. Check that; just install it in the Elise and run!

Great Bike. I’ve been tracking it for couple of years in development, yet am very surprised at the price. Initially, $85k — steep to begin with, and now $133k?! Has the dollar fallen THAT much against the Euro?

There’s the early adopters, the early majority, the late majority, and the laggards. In this story of adopting technology, I think the price/product mix is off the mark. How many early adopters with the money to spend on this bike — regardless of how great it is — will pony up for the pleasure? In my (mildly limited) estimation, this bike doesn’t have the pedigree, styling, historical importance, technological impact, or industry buzz to find the buyers at $133,000.00. The technology MIGHT be closest to securing a buyer, but do the monied technophiles want choppers? Do the purely monied want the technology? Would a Harley owner want to sacrifice $133k worth of V-Twin HD’s for this? There will be some, but I’m sorry; it’s difficult to imagine this bike ever becoming the root of popular diesel motorcycling. Neander seems to be selling the motorcycling equivalent of a hot-rodded diesel Veyron; a tangential answer to the markets’ low priority question.

But look, that’s just my opinion — I’d be very happy to hear anyone else’s thoughts!

JC

]]> By: C-Petteri http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/09/27/neander-turbo-diesel-motorcycle-is-introduced/comment-page-1/#comment-92630 C-Petteri Sat, 29 Sep 2007 16:46:38 +0000 http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/09/27/neander-turbo-diesel-motorcycle-is-introduced/#comment-92630 What an ugly duck that is, yikes ! Interesting concept nonetheless, but based on those early prototype pictures I was waiting for something else. This one looks like the design team panicked right before the launching and decited to throw some new parts to it. I mean, the seat sucks, tank smells, but otherwise the bike looks good :) What an ugly duck that is, yikes ! Interesting concept nonetheless, but based on those early prototype pictures I was waiting for something else. This one looks like the design team panicked right before the launching and decited to throw some new parts to it. I mean, the seat sucks, tank smells, but otherwise the bike looks good :)

]]> By: DW http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/09/27/neander-turbo-diesel-motorcycle-is-introduced/comment-page-1/#comment-92604 DW Fri, 28 Sep 2007 22:26:35 +0000 http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/09/27/neander-turbo-diesel-motorcycle-is-introduced/#comment-92604 todd, the v-twin may actually have LESS torque. The twin crank design offsets the crank centerline from the piston bore centerline. This means that when the piston is at TDC the rods are NOT vertical or inline with the centerline of the crank, which gives the piston more leverage on the crank during the power stroke and thus MORE torque. It also has the side benefit of reducing side loading of the piston and thus friction. todd, the v-twin may actually have LESS torque. The twin crank design offsets the crank centerline from the piston bore centerline. This means that when the piston is at TDC the rods are NOT vertical or inline with the centerline of the crank, which gives the piston more leverage on the crank during the power stroke and thus MORE torque. It also has the side benefit of reducing side loading of the piston and thus friction.

]]> By: todd http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/09/27/neander-turbo-diesel-motorcycle-is-introduced/comment-page-1/#comment-92598 todd Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:16:14 +0000 http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/09/27/neander-turbo-diesel-motorcycle-is-introduced/#comment-92598 Keith, the V-configuration would have absolutely no affect on torque. -todd Keith, the V-configuration would have absolutely no affect on torque.

-todd

]]> By: Keith http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/09/27/neander-turbo-diesel-motorcycle-is-introduced/comment-page-1/#comment-92591 Keith Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:36:36 +0000 http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/09/27/neander-turbo-diesel-motorcycle-is-introduced/#comment-92591 No doubt about it , that is a torquey bike . Just waiting to see a v-twin diesel , that would be a mega torque monster . No doubt about it , that is a torquey bike . Just waiting to see a v-twin diesel , that would be a mega torque monster .

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