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	<title>Comments on: Zero Electric Motorcycle</title>
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		<title>By: Spartandude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spartandude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be careful with replacing individual cells. Mismatched performance characteristics in battery cells in a pack will cause excessive strain on individual cells dramatically decreasing their life expectancy. If one cell is &quot;bad&quot; the chances that any of the other cells are salvageable is low. It is recommended to recycle the used pack and replace in one unit. Budget for this in your consideration of the expense of electricity for the equivalent fuel cost. Expect most packs to have between 800 and 2000 charge cycles depending heavily on the demand placed on the battery vs. its components. Looks like fun, but would not suite my 110mile/day commute in Houston Freeway traffic. 
Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be careful with replacing individual cells. Mismatched performance characteristics in battery cells in a pack will cause excessive strain on individual cells dramatically decreasing their life expectancy. If one cell is &#8220;bad&#8221; the chances that any of the other cells are salvageable is low. It is recommended to recycle the used pack and replace in one unit. Budget for this in your consideration of the expense of electricity for the equivalent fuel cost. Expect most packs to have between 800 and 2000 charge cycles depending heavily on the demand placed on the battery vs. its components. Looks like fun, but would not suite my 110mile/day commute in Houston Freeway traffic.<br />
Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Bebo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bebo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 22:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought I should provide feedback since I&#039;ve actually ridden the zero.

PERFORMANCE:
The Zero is not perfect but it is dang close for a 1st generation machine. It is well engineered and well thought out.

The bike excels in its performance and handling. It is well balanced and has pretty impressive braking and suspension.

And... it is an acceleration junkies dream! Since, electric motors have near instantaneous access to their full powerband, the Zero is the quickest 0 to 40 mph bike I&#039;ve ever ridden. I nearly looped the bike twice trying to hit wide open throttle from a stand still. Eventually I got the knack.

Several performance characteristics such as throttle responsiveness and top speed are user programmable via a PC. You can really customize the bike to suit your riding preferences. One thing I realized right away was that you could alter the bike to suit a whole family&#039;s riding needs without needing multiple bikes.

There&#039;s a lot more I could write, but I was blown away by the performance. I just started racing mini gp bikes here in Texas and they are &quot;turtles&quot; off the line compared to the Zero. I&#039;d love to race it against the gas bikes. Even if I had to dial the motor down to a slower top speed I&#039;d still be able to come out of the corners so much faster than anyone else and I&#039;d lose no time to shifting. My concern would be how much the actual range when you&#039;re riding it hard.

I&#039;m convinced that electric is the future and if you appreciate performance you should give it a look. 

PRICING
Most new 250 cc dirt bikes have an MSRP (about $6500) a little less than the Zero but there really is a lot less maintenance involved. No carb to worry about getting gummed up. No oil changes. I&#039;m willing to pay a little more just for that. Less wrenching. More riding.

The battery packs are expensive but I believe these are designed so you can replace the individual cells when they go bad rather than chuck the entire battery. And like all things, technology and usage will drive the price of batteries down. And as battery technology improves you&#039;ll probably be able to upgrade.

And yes. I am saving up my money for a Zero. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought I should provide feedback since I&#8217;ve actually ridden the zero.</p>
<p>PERFORMANCE:<br />
The Zero is not perfect but it is dang close for a 1st generation machine. It is well engineered and well thought out.</p>
<p>The bike excels in its performance and handling. It is well balanced and has pretty impressive braking and suspension.</p>
<p>And&#8230; it is an acceleration junkies dream! Since, electric motors have near instantaneous access to their full powerband, the Zero is the quickest 0 to 40 mph bike I&#8217;ve ever ridden. I nearly looped the bike twice trying to hit wide open throttle from a stand still. Eventually I got the knack.</p>
<p>Several performance characteristics such as throttle responsiveness and top speed are user programmable via a PC. You can really customize the bike to suit your riding preferences. One thing I realized right away was that you could alter the bike to suit a whole family&#8217;s riding needs without needing multiple bikes.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot more I could write, but I was blown away by the performance. I just started racing mini gp bikes here in Texas and they are &#8220;turtles&#8221; off the line compared to the Zero. I&#8217;d love to race it against the gas bikes. Even if I had to dial the motor down to a slower top speed I&#8217;d still be able to come out of the corners so much faster than anyone else and I&#8217;d lose no time to shifting. My concern would be how much the actual range when you&#8217;re riding it hard.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m convinced that electric is the future and if you appreciate performance you should give it a look. </p>
<p>PRICING<br />
Most new 250 cc dirt bikes have an MSRP (about $6500) a little less than the Zero but there really is a lot less maintenance involved. No carb to worry about getting gummed up. No oil changes. I&#8217;m willing to pay a little more just for that. Less wrenching. More riding.</p>
<p>The battery packs are expensive but I believe these are designed so you can replace the individual cells when they go bad rather than chuck the entire battery. And like all things, technology and usage will drive the price of batteries down. And as battery technology improves you&#8217;ll probably be able to upgrade.</p>
<p>And yes. I am saving up my money for a Zero. <img src='http://thekneeslider.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: todd</title>
		<link>http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/08/07/zero-electric-motorcycle/comment-page-1/#comment-87108</link>
		<dc:creator>todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 05:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stefan, there may be more to the registration thing.  Remember all those Corbin Sparrows we used to see riding (driving) around?  They are all considered motorcycles and are highway legal.  It must be based on how the manufacturer classifies it.  It does seem to be a very grey area in the Vehicle Code, I doubt there is any urgency to better define it.

Current code is based on engine capacity except in the case of mopeds (motorized bicycles) which also considers HP (no more than 2) or Watts (no more than 1kW but 2HP = 1.5kW so electrics get the short end of the stick).  If this thing is 20HP, that&#039;s 15kW, 10X times that allowed a motorized bicycle.  I&#039;d say it was a motorcycle.

-todd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stefan, there may be more to the registration thing.  Remember all those Corbin Sparrows we used to see riding (driving) around?  They are all considered motorcycles and are highway legal.  It must be based on how the manufacturer classifies it.  It does seem to be a very grey area in the Vehicle Code, I doubt there is any urgency to better define it.</p>
<p>Current code is based on engine capacity except in the case of mopeds (motorized bicycles) which also considers HP (no more than 2) or Watts (no more than 1kW but 2HP = 1.5kW so electrics get the short end of the stick).  If this thing is 20HP, that&#8217;s 15kW, 10X times that allowed a motorized bicycle.  I&#8217;d say it was a motorcycle.</p>
<p>-todd</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been kinda looking at one of these for a while. (The company used to be http://electricross.com)

I think the street legal version is only street legal because in California it&#039;s technically considered an electric bicycle (restricting you to 25mph). So for commuting purposes it only makes sense on surface streets.

I live and work in San Francisco, so it&#039;s been tempting me as something I can use for my daily commute, and also take out for some dirt riding or supermoto action on the weekends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been kinda looking at one of these for a while. (The company used to be <a href="http://electricross.com)" rel="nofollow">http://electricross.com)</a></p>
<p>I think the street legal version is only street legal because in California it&#8217;s technically considered an electric bicycle (restricting you to 25mph). So for commuting purposes it only makes sense on surface streets.</p>
<p>I live and work in San Francisco, so it&#8217;s been tempting me as something I can use for my daily commute, and also take out for some dirt riding or supermoto action on the weekends.</p>
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		<title>By: GenWaylaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>GenWaylaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 07:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the design is purely functional.  I&#039;d like to see what these guys could do if they designed a road bike from the ground up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the design is purely functional.  I&#8217;d like to see what these guys could do if they designed a road bike from the ground up.</p>
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