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	<title>Comments on: China Builds and Sells Fake Yamaha Scooters</title>
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		<title>By: hoyt</title>
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		<dc:creator>hoyt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case you ever run out of coolant for your Chinese motorcycle a tube should fit in your underseat toolkit.....

BEIJING (Reuters) - A Chinese firm accused of manufacturing tainted toothpaste said it has stopped using a chemical found in antifreeze, Xinhua news agency reported on Friday amid a row about the safety of Chinese products. 

Shanghai White Cat Shareholding Co. Ltd, maker of &quot;MAXAM&quot; toothpaste, said in a statement the company stopped using diethylene glycol, or DEG, in all products on May 21.

The statement said DEG, a thickening agent used in antifreeze, was commonly used in toothpaste.

&quot;Tests indicate that a low level of DEG does not threaten health,&quot; the company was quoted as saying.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070615/hl_nm/china_health_toothpaste_dc</description>
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<p>BEIJING (Reuters) &#8211; A Chinese firm accused of manufacturing tainted toothpaste said it has stopped using a chemical found in antifreeze, Xinhua news agency reported on Friday amid a row about the safety of Chinese products. </p>
<p>Shanghai White Cat Shareholding Co. Ltd, maker of &#8220;MAXAM&#8221; toothpaste, said in a statement the company stopped using diethylene glycol, or DEG, in all products on May 21.</p>
<p>The statement said DEG, a thickening agent used in antifreeze, was commonly used in toothpaste.</p>
<p>&#8220;Tests indicate that a low level of DEG does not threaten health,&#8221; the company was quoted as saying.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070615/hl_nm/china_health_toothpaste_dc" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070615/hl_nm/china_health_toothpaste_dc</a></p>
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		<title>By: Prester John</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prester John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen a couple of internet postings over the last few years to the effect, &quot;It&#039;s the exact same scooter as the Yamaha.  I was in the factory and saw them being built side-by-side.&quot;

Yeah, buddy, you probably didn&#039;t see a REAL Yamaha being built.  As others have said, designs belong to the people, comrade Kneeslider.

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen a couple of internet postings over the last few years to the effect, &#8220;It&#8217;s the exact same scooter as the Yamaha.  I was in the factory and saw them being built side-by-side.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, buddy, you probably didn&#8217;t see a REAL Yamaha being built.  As others have said, designs belong to the people, comrade Kneeslider.</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 03:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work in Japan. We produce industrial machinery. Last year, 18 new companies have opened in China, producing the very same machines.

They copied the outlines from our leaflets and catalogs.  For the interior they just use their Chinese crap.
Our catalogs are usually just photocopied, address is changed with a sticker on top of ours. If they had a good day, they will modify colors a little bit.

Lawsuts are useless waste of time and money, the outcome is usually nothing.

Most western people talking about big business and industrial potential in China, IMHO forget that Hong Kong and China are not the same pair of shoes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work in Japan. We produce industrial machinery. Last year, 18 new companies have opened in China, producing the very same machines.</p>
<p>They copied the outlines from our leaflets and catalogs.  For the interior they just use their Chinese crap.<br />
Our catalogs are usually just photocopied, address is changed with a sticker on top of ours. If they had a good day, they will modify colors a little bit.</p>
<p>Lawsuts are useless waste of time and money, the outcome is usually nothing.</p>
<p>Most western people talking about big business and industrial potential in China, IMHO forget that Hong Kong and China are not the same pair of shoes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bryce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 02:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would not do business in China for this very reason. Paul G&#039;s example is so true, but it&#039;s not limited to just that. Once any product goes to China, it&#039;s going to be shared like nudie pictures are among teenage boys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would not do business in China for this very reason. Paul G&#8217;s example is so true, but it&#8217;s not limited to just that. Once any product goes to China, it&#8217;s going to be shared like nudie pictures are among teenage boys.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Paul G. I work in composite plastics, and there is a mindset in China that is diametrically opposed to Western ideas. 

Furthermore, I think we- the consumers- should pay attention to our role in this. If we don’t reject rip off products, the Yamahas of the world have to spend time and resources fighting legal battles. Time and resources that could be drawn away from the wildly inefficient and expensive task of keeping Valentino Rossi and the M1 prototype running on the weekends. I doubt there is a solid ROI on the Yen spent on the MotoGP show, but Yamaha does it never the less. I love it and appreciate it, and I recognize that there are a hand-full of companies making my beloved spectacle possible. Yamaha is one of them. 

China: don’t be lazy! Design your own S#$%, and earn your own reputation. Taking Yamaha’s hard-earned reputation is stealing, and NOBODY likes a @#$%^ thief!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Paul G. I work in composite plastics, and there is a mindset in China that is diametrically opposed to Western ideas. </p>
<p>Furthermore, I think we- the consumers- should pay attention to our role in this. If we don’t reject rip off products, the Yamahas of the world have to spend time and resources fighting legal battles. Time and resources that could be drawn away from the wildly inefficient and expensive task of keeping Valentino Rossi and the M1 prototype running on the weekends. I doubt there is a solid ROI on the Yen spent on the MotoGP show, but Yamaha does it never the less. I love it and appreciate it, and I recognize that there are a hand-full of companies making my beloved spectacle possible. Yamaha is one of them. </p>
<p>China: don’t be lazy! Design your own S#$%, and earn your own reputation. Taking Yamaha’s hard-earned reputation is stealing, and NOBODY likes a @#$%^ thief!</p>
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