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	<title>Comments on: OpenRoadJourney Motorcycle Route Planner</title>
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		<title>By: chris major</title>
		<link>http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/02/26/openroadjourney-motorcycle-route-planner/#comment-232063</link>
		<dc:creator>chris major</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to propose an alternate perspective, that it&#039;s understandable to try via advance planning to seek out  pleasant things such as a beautiful stretch of road, yet quite another to open yourself to new experience, where that openness forces you to grow as a human being, and to understand that everything should be accepted. Thus, my best touring trip ever was when I traveled without any plans at all, without a map or a destination.. I made turns when I felt like it, camped in hidden spots, met strangers in weird places, saw wild animals, found secluded graves, saw vast industrial landscapes that were as beautiful as scenic parkways, drove my bike into the forest (my Yamaha 650 weighed half as much as a touring bike). I was stoned the entire time and 22 years of age. Now at age 52, everything is safe and comfortable, but that&#039;s another way of say &quot;slow death.&quot; I want to live again!

I&#039;m about to do the same thing again (another lengthy undirected motorcycle trip), and I don&#039;t think that the world has changed. I found this web site through force of habit since right now I&#039;m sitting on my sofa with a laptop, but I&#039;m grateful for everyone&#039;s efforts, including this site and the other comments, for helping me to clarify what I want. On this upcoming trip, f I were to bring my cell phone and laptop, then I&#039;d use them out of habit, but with the effect of avoiding new experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to propose an alternate perspective, that it&#8217;s understandable to try via advance planning to seek out  pleasant things such as a beautiful stretch of road, yet quite another to open yourself to new experience, where that openness forces you to grow as a human being, and to understand that everything should be accepted. Thus, my best touring trip ever was when I traveled without any plans at all, without a map or a destination.. I made turns when I felt like it, camped in hidden spots, met strangers in weird places, saw wild animals, found secluded graves, saw vast industrial landscapes that were as beautiful as scenic parkways, drove my bike into the forest (my Yamaha 650 weighed half as much as a touring bike). I was stoned the entire time and 22 years of age. Now at age 52, everything is safe and comfortable, but that&#8217;s another way of say &#8220;slow death.&#8221; I want to live again!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m about to do the same thing again (another lengthy undirected motorcycle trip), and I don&#8217;t think that the world has changed. I found this web site through force of habit since right now I&#8217;m sitting on my sofa with a laptop, but I&#8217;m grateful for everyone&#8217;s efforts, including this site and the other comments, for helping me to clarify what I want. On this upcoming trip, f I were to bring my cell phone and laptop, then I&#8217;d use them out of habit, but with the effect of avoiding new experience.</p>
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		<title>By: CruiserDave</title>
		<link>http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/02/26/openroadjourney-motorcycle-route-planner/#comment-72670</link>
		<dc:creator>CruiserDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just came across this article, agree with others that sites like these are a good idea.  Knowledge of good roads only help motorcycling in general, especially with the precision that GPS offers.  Yeah squids suck, but there are squids in any activity, can&#039;t let them ruin the fun for all.

That begin said, I was a bit disappointed that most of the rides on Open Road Journey, most are tourist traps taken directly from www.byways.org...not exactly what I would call &quot;motorcycle roads&quot;...speaking of Deal&#039;s Gap...it&#039;s not even listed on the site.

I hope I have better luck with with the other sites mentioned.

My 2 cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just came across this article, agree with others that sites like these are a good idea.  Knowledge of good roads only help motorcycling in general, especially with the precision that GPS offers.  Yeah squids suck, but there are squids in any activity, can&#8217;t let them ruin the fun for all.</p>
<p>That begin said, I was a bit disappointed that most of the rides on Open Road Journey, most are tourist traps taken directly from <a href="http://www.byways.org...not" rel="nofollow">http://www.byways.org&#8230;not</a> exactly what I would call &#8220;motorcycle roads&#8221;&#8230;speaking of Deal&#8217;s Gap&#8230;it&#8217;s not even listed on the site.</p>
<p>I hope I have better luck with with the other sites mentioned.</p>
<p>My 2 cents.</p>
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		<title>By: motoquest</title>
		<link>http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/02/26/openroadjourney-motorcycle-route-planner/#comment-71690</link>
		<dc:creator>motoquest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with kneeslider. A vast amount of routes and rides are needed to bring enough choices to those seeking for a good ride. And much better if the effort is nationwide. That&#039;s exactly the point...

It&#039;s nothing new that the surroundings of big metropolitan areas have those backroads fairly crowded. But there are plenty of nice roads out there in less populated areas for those beyond the average sunday rider who are willing to make longer rides on those big journeys reaching the horizon. Riding motorcycles out of town is a rather local and weekend thing and those &quot;going the extra mile&quot; are few. If you give&#039;em accurate data, maps and even GPS files you make things easier for those riders to go ahead end explore beyond their cities. So any effort (web or paper) to pack those local knowledges together in a single place for bikers is a good thing for motorcycling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with kneeslider. A vast amount of routes and rides are needed to bring enough choices to those seeking for a good ride. And much better if the effort is nationwide. That&#8217;s exactly the point&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s nothing new that the surroundings of big metropolitan areas have those backroads fairly crowded. But there are plenty of nice roads out there in less populated areas for those beyond the average sunday rider who are willing to make longer rides on those big journeys reaching the horizon. Riding motorcycles out of town is a rather local and weekend thing and those &#8220;going the extra mile&#8221; are few. If you give&#8217;em accurate data, maps and even GPS files you make things easier for those riders to go ahead end explore beyond their cities. So any effort (web or paper) to pack those local knowledges together in a single place for bikers is a good thing for motorcycling.</p>
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		<title>By: kneeslider</title>
		<link>http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/02/26/openroadjourney-motorcycle-route-planner/#comment-71669</link>
		<dc:creator>kneeslider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crowded roads are the natural result of growing numbers of riders and drivers looking for a pleasant experience. Especially in the age of the computer, news travels fast and with Deals Gap, for instance, a number of businesses now derive an income from that stretch of road.

On the other hand, the more good roads there are, the less likely any single one will get overcrowded. If everyone now knows about Deals Gap but nothing else, then Deals Gap gets the focus. It&#039;s the idea of the &quot;long tail&quot; of demand. Once choices increase, everyone is free to experiment and try something new instead of crowding the one or two choices everyone knows about.

The secluded beach, the cozy restaurant, the twisty road with little traffic all change over time. As the gems are discovered by one they will eventually be known to many, the experience changes, time to move on. You can&#039;t freeze time and permanently keep anything secret which means you need to enjoy what you&#039;ve found while it lasts and try new roads yourself when you find out about them.

Share more good roads and overwhelm riders with choices so no single choice gets all of the traffic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crowded roads are the natural result of growing numbers of riders and drivers looking for a pleasant experience. Especially in the age of the computer, news travels fast and with Deals Gap, for instance, a number of businesses now derive an income from that stretch of road.</p>
<p>On the other hand, the more good roads there are, the less likely any single one will get overcrowded. If everyone now knows about Deals Gap but nothing else, then Deals Gap gets the focus. It&#8217;s the idea of the &#8220;long tail&#8221; of demand. Once choices increase, everyone is free to experiment and try something new instead of crowding the one or two choices everyone knows about.</p>
<p>The secluded beach, the cozy restaurant, the twisty road with little traffic all change over time. As the gems are discovered by one they will eventually be known to many, the experience changes, time to move on. You can&#8217;t freeze time and permanently keep anything secret which means you need to enjoy what you&#8217;ve found while it lasts and try new roads yourself when you find out about them.</p>
<p>Share more good roads and overwhelm riders with choices so no single choice gets all of the traffic.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/02/26/openroadjourney-motorcycle-route-planner/#comment-71667</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see the point, but spreading the word about good roads was going on long before the internet, the internet has just accelerated how fast it spreads.  If it&#039;s a truly great road, eventually people will find out, and people will ride it.  The problem is there are too many darn people! :)

For people that travel by motorcycle, or for new people to riding, sites like Pashnit and OpenRoadJourney.com, that help give people an idea of what a location is like, can be great resource.  Plus, for my money, anything that gets more people riding two wheels versus four is a positive thing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see the point, but spreading the word about good roads was going on long before the internet, the internet has just accelerated how fast it spreads.  If it&#8217;s a truly great road, eventually people will find out, and people will ride it.  The problem is there are too many darn people! <img src='http://thekneeslider.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>For people that travel by motorcycle, or for new people to riding, sites like Pashnit and OpenRoadJourney.com, that help give people an idea of what a location is like, can be great resource.  Plus, for my money, anything that gets more people riding two wheels versus four is a positive thing!</p>
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