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	<title>Comments on: Traction Control for AMA Superbikes?</title>
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		<title>By: zipidachimp</title>
		<link>http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2006/05/31/traction-control-for-ama-superbikes/comment-page-1/#comment-20419</link>
		<dc:creator>zipidachimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 19:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>easy solution: ban all laptops from the pits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>easy solution: ban all laptops from the pits.</p>
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		<title>By: RATTSBIKES</title>
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		<dc:creator>RATTSBIKES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 15:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I have to agree there, LOL.  Nothing like going to the races with a big hangover and then drinking lots of beer after the races also, good health food?  And getting into shape, sure the only shape we were concerned with was the girls watching the races?
RATS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I have to agree there, LOL.  Nothing like going to the races with a big hangover and then drinking lots of beer after the races also, good health food?  And getting into shape, sure the only shape we were concerned with was the girls watching the races?<br />
RATS</p>
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		<title>By: aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 01:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wouldn&#039;t it be great to stick rossi on the rc166 replica and have him haul it around a classic track?  try to use tires of equal grip to those used &quot;back in the day&quot; and you might get an idea if riders have progressed, or regressed, or stayed the same....

have to say though, i think that today&#039;s riders are in much better physical condition...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wouldn&#8217;t it be great to stick rossi on the rc166 replica and have him haul it around a classic track?  try to use tires of equal grip to those used &#8220;back in the day&#8221; and you might get an idea if riders have progressed, or regressed, or stayed the same&#8230;.</p>
<p>have to say though, i think that today&#8217;s riders are in much better physical condition&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RATTSBIKES</title>
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		<dc:creator>RATTSBIKES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 21:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I rarely say anything here but this is something I have to speak outload too.!!!!!

Traction control, come on, this is getting to be robot racing, I raced in the as you kids say (IN THE DAY), on and old triumph and we had nothing but rider skill and bike set up.  I watch all the races it brings back good memories and thoughts of what could of been, but now I wonder, how much of this is really racer and rider skills, and how much is tech?

I for one am not happy about the AMA, but again I don&#039;t have to follow thier rules anymore either, so to this I must ask, ( Are there any real skilled riders out there or only tech types that race with the robots)?

RATS, and Old Dog from the Day who is now a Junkyard dog and knarrly as hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rarely say anything here but this is something I have to speak outload too.!!!!!</p>
<p>Traction control, come on, this is getting to be robot racing, I raced in the as you kids say (IN THE DAY), on and old triumph and we had nothing but rider skill and bike set up.  I watch all the races it brings back good memories and thoughts of what could of been, but now I wonder, how much of this is really racer and rider skills, and how much is tech?</p>
<p>I for one am not happy about the AMA, but again I don&#8217;t have to follow thier rules anymore either, so to this I must ask, ( Are there any real skilled riders out there or only tech types that race with the robots)?</p>
<p>RATS, and Old Dog from the Day who is now a Junkyard dog and knarrly as hell.</p>
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		<title>By: aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 17:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it shouldn&#039;t be too hard to police traction control in a controlled technology series like nascar, but in f1 I&#039;m a little stunned that the FIA dosn&#039;t require a feed of the telemetry and algorithms to be stored for a few years.  do the steroids deal, where wins and titles are confiscated after the fact, and the infringing party may be excluded from future competition.  requiring the throttle pedal to directly alter the proportion of fuel entering the engine will disallow trickery on that front (take 2 traces: one from the pedal and one from the motor), and monitoring the spark will prevent traction control from being introduced in this manner.  readings from the brakes will prevent these being used to control traction (and more importantly, stability control!  never heard it mentioned, but I believe it&#039;s here.)  

800cc will be cool, but the trick may be around the 600cc mark.  wherever it is, the sweet spot will be where tuning for power is still required, and the driver has to sort out the driveability issues.  anyone notice that the street ducati GP6rr has about the same quoted output as some of it&#039;s motogp rivals?  using f1 tech, a 1000cc motor is capable of over 300hp, yet the cap is about 240...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it shouldn&#8217;t be too hard to police traction control in a controlled technology series like nascar, but in f1 I&#8217;m a little stunned that the FIA dosn&#8217;t require a feed of the telemetry and algorithms to be stored for a few years.  do the steroids deal, where wins and titles are confiscated after the fact, and the infringing party may be excluded from future competition.  requiring the throttle pedal to directly alter the proportion of fuel entering the engine will disallow trickery on that front (take 2 traces: one from the pedal and one from the motor), and monitoring the spark will prevent traction control from being introduced in this manner.  readings from the brakes will prevent these being used to control traction (and more importantly, stability control!  never heard it mentioned, but I believe it&#8217;s here.)  </p>
<p>800cc will be cool, but the trick may be around the 600cc mark.  wherever it is, the sweet spot will be where tuning for power is still required, and the driver has to sort out the driveability issues.  anyone notice that the street ducati GP6rr has about the same quoted output as some of it&#8217;s motogp rivals?  using f1 tech, a 1000cc motor is capable of over 300hp, yet the cap is about 240&#8230;</p>
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