Comments on: Buell XBRR http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2006/01/23/buell-xbrr/ Motorcycle News for Positive People Thu, 24 May 2012 12:02:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: hoyt http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2006/01/23/buell-xbrr/#comment-6117 hoyt Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:24:34 +0000 http://thekneeslider.com/?p=823#comment-6117 The Swallower is a cool setup for changing gear sets per track, but I think the MGS-01 would do fine with shaft drive The Swallower is a cool setup for changing gear sets per track, but I think the MGS-01 would do fine with shaft drive

]]> By: todd http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2006/01/23/buell-xbrr/#comment-6113 todd Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:11:18 +0000 http://thekneeslider.com/?p=823#comment-6113 all engines are cooled in some degree by oil. Oil is a liquid. Aaron brought up a good point that might actually disqualify Buell if one were to look at things this way without further rule clarification. If oil circulates anywhere in the head or splashes onto the underside of the piston then the motor is liquid cooled (in this case oil), but not as a primary source of cooling. Now one only has to determine whether the air or oil is the primary source of engine cooling... Ahh, rules. -todd all engines are cooled in some degree by oil. Oil is a liquid. Aaron brought up a good point that might actually disqualify Buell if one were to look at things this way without further rule clarification. If oil circulates anywhere in the head or splashes onto the underside of the piston then the motor is liquid cooled (in this case oil), but not as a primary source of cooling. Now one only has to determine whether the air or oil is the primary source of engine cooling…
Ahh, rules.

-todd

]]> By: aaron http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2006/01/23/buell-xbrr/#comment-6112 aaron Tue, 24 Jan 2006 18:33:53 +0000 http://thekneeslider.com/?p=823#comment-6112 the biggest problem with inviting competition from the others is the difficulty in getting a 1340cc machine... ducati dosen't have a hope in hell, the ds aircooled engines probably would turn into gernades before 1150cc and the guzzi big bore kit being marketed adds liquid cooled heads, so no luck there... for ducati I think the ama would alter the rules to differenciate between push rods and desmo OHC also...and both bmw and ducati could be refered to as "liquid cooled" by some rule enforcers due to oil cooling assisting the air... hmmm, the mgs-01 guzzi is looking like the best of the europeans here, just need a swallower chain drive conversion kit........... the biggest problem with inviting competition from the others is the difficulty in getting a 1340cc machine… ducati dosen’t have a hope in hell, the ds aircooled engines probably would turn into gernades before 1150cc and the guzzi big bore kit being marketed adds liquid cooled heads, so no luck there… for ducati I think the ama would alter the rules to differenciate between push rods and desmo OHC also…and both bmw and ducati could be refered to as “liquid cooled” by some rule enforcers due to oil cooling assisting the air…

hmmm, the mgs-01 guzzi is looking like the best of the europeans here, just need a swallower chain drive conversion kit………..

]]> By: Prester John http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2006/01/23/buell-xbrr/#comment-6111 Prester John Tue, 24 Jan 2006 18:24:05 +0000 http://thekneeslider.com/?p=823#comment-6111 I think the rules are written the way they are because 4cyl's already have Supersport and Superstock and the AMA would love to involve the factories, aftermarket and legions of fans of twins (Aprilia, BMW, Ducati, H-D, KTM, Guzzi - and for that matter, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki and Yamaha) in a race series. The AMA might be dreaming about 600,000 folks cheering an HDI product at Dayton, but for a gear head, who wins would be small matter compared to the joy of being at trackside _hearing_ the different engines race by. Burt Munro, call your office! Tom I think the rules are written the way they are because 4cyl’s already have Supersport and Superstock and the AMA would love to involve the factories, aftermarket and legions of fans of twins (Aprilia, BMW, Ducati, H-D, KTM, Guzzi – and for that matter, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki and Yamaha) in a race series.

The AMA might be dreaming about 600,000 folks cheering an HDI product at Dayton, but for a gear head, who wins would be small matter compared to the joy of being at trackside _hearing_ the different engines race by.

Burt Munro, call your office!
Tom

]]> By: hoyt http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2006/01/23/buell-xbrr/#comment-6109 hoyt Tue, 24 Jan 2006 16:09:36 +0000 http://thekneeslider.com/?p=823#comment-6109 A revised MT-01 would do well in the showroom too. I'd like to see Guzzi put the MGS-01 into this series. With Guzzi's return to racing and the new BMW Boxer & 1000 DS Supersport bikes from Ducati(air-cooled), this could be the best racing besides MotoGP. Racing fans and racers would see bikes from Japan, Europe (3), & USA. I've posted something similar to this on a Guzzi forum and some of them responded that it would turn into a Ducati/Buell fest. Maybe, but I wouldn't count out the new BMW. Plus, a Lemans-type series would be loads of fun....different bikes in different classes racing at the same time. A tribute to the air-cooled origins of motorcycling. A revised MT-01 would do well in the showroom too.

I’d like to see Guzzi put the MGS-01 into this series. With Guzzi’s return to racing and the new BMW Boxer & 1000 DS Supersport bikes from Ducati(air-cooled), this could be the best racing besides MotoGP. Racing fans and racers would see bikes from Japan, Europe (3), & USA.

I’ve posted something similar to this on a Guzzi forum and some of them responded that it would turn into a Ducati/Buell fest. Maybe, but I wouldn’t count out the new BMW. Plus, a Lemans-type series would be loads of fun….different bikes in different classes racing at the same time. A tribute to the air-cooled origins of motorcycling.

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